open a fresh new Red Server or teams server

[Swish]

wipe it on Velious opening night (which should be 1-2 weeks before blue)... guaranteed to breathe fresh life into the box

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wipe it on Velious opening night (which should be 1-2 weeks before blue)... guaranteed to breathe fresh life into the box

Naw, 2 days after for maximum trolling.

[Musetii]

Derubael already stated that he'd rather red99 slowly deteriorate and die than open the floor for talks about a wipe. But then again, money talks. Donate more to become relevant.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Musetii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael already stated that he'd rather red99 slowly deteriorate and die than open the floor for talks about a wipe. But then again, money talks. Donate more to become relevant.

Not just me - Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken have all stated they will never wipe either box.

Wipe box - > 3-6 months down the road we are in the exact same situation with the exact same people. The people who don't play here will continue to not play here for the same reasons. The people who leave will continue to leave for the same reasons. The people who stay will stay for the same reasons.

It will be great for like a month. Then a vocal minority will be calling for a wipe again (yes, wipe committee, you guys are a vocal minority.)

[Musetii]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not just me - Rogean, Nilbog, and Sirken have all stated they will never wipe either box.

Wipe box - > 3-6 months down the road we are in the exact same situation with the exact same people. The people who don't play here will continue to not play here for the same reasons. The people who leave will continue to leave for the same reasons. The people who stay will stay for the same reasons.

It will be great for like a month. Then a vocal minority will be calling for a wipe again (yes, wipe committee, you guys are a vocal minority.)

Negative. This current box has seen enough server changes for a wipe to be necessary. That alone is worth the wipe, not to mention other brought up issues like rmt and guild limit size + whatever arguments the majority of the population has.

[Colgate]

78% of 220 voters is a vocal minority?

wut?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

78% of 220 voters is a vocal minority?

wut?

You're forgetting that half those people don't even log in anymore. A quarter was anonymous forum accounts. So that leaves us with about 30-40 people who actually want a wipe and actively play here.

Regardless, the numbers don't matter - they aren't going to wipe the box. It's not even worth talking about. Sometime after Velious release Rogean will look at a teams server. If you can't live without playing on a fresh box, wait for that. Also, no one addressed this:

Wipe box - > 3-6 months down the road we are in the exact same situation with the exact same people. The people who don't play here will continue to not play here for the same reasons. The people who leave will continue to leave for the same reasons. The people who stay will stay for the same reasons.

How will this freshly wiped box end up any different if it's all the same people? Including ones we've banned to the point that they stopped trying. I just don't see it turning out differently somehow.

[Musetii]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're forgetting that half those people don't even log in anymore. A quarter was anonymous forum accounts. So that leaves us with about 30-40 people who actually want a wipe and actively play here.

Regardless, the numbers don't matter - they aren't going to wipe the box. It's not even worth talking about. Sometime after Velious release Rogean will look at a teams server. If you can't live without playing on a fresh box, wait for that. Also, no one addressed this:



How will this freshly wiped box end up any different if it's all the same people? Including ones we've banned to the point that they stopped trying. I just don't see it turning out differently somehow.

Sticky a warning in general chat threatening any pro wipe supporters permabans and watch the rest of the current population drop. I'm sure the non pve pop is only logging in because they want to believe beneficial changes are coming.

[georgie]

box thriving

[Jenni D]

think how many would return to play if a wipe was green lit. yikes.