Time for me to head out, after this pull.

[Fett]

Originally Posted by Yonkec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn we are one socially vindictive and hilariously self righteous player base aren't we?

Let's just get all of the kiddos together to published an official "Too cool for school" blacklist and get it over with. Fuck your hand written lists, if you are gonna do it, do it big ya'll.

All I see is a thread like that turning into the next "Your chance to win a free AON and COF.".

...let's do it.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Fett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I see is a thread like that turning into the next "Your chance to win a free AON and COF.".

...let's do it.

Spitulski.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Yonkec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn we are one socially vindictive and hilariously self righteous player base aren't we?

Let's just get all of the kiddos together to published an official "Too cool for school" blacklist and get it over with. Fuck your hand written lists, if you are gonna do it, do it big ya'll.

I'm with you on this. We should also throw tomatoes at them because reasons.

[rawwhide]

Is this a game or a fantasy lived by some with no life?

Wait, forget that. I forgot where I was posting.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by rawwhide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this a game or a fantasy lived by some with no life?

Wait, forget that. I forgot where I was posting.

conditions. it's conditions i tell ya. conditions

[cries4hardcore]

Flame flame flame, damn guys, op has a pet peeve, it's not that crazy. Some might disagree, but damn are a few of us vicious. I get what he is saying. I don't think anyone gives a shit when the afk leaching wiz drops without so much as a goodbye, but if a critical role ghosts mid pull or in a dangerous spawn it can be pretty shitty and selfish. I'm a cleric mainly, I have real life responsibilities, I don't find it hard to give notice when I'm leaving. Shit, had a horrible family emergency and had the time to help my group finish pull and get out of fireplace in unrest before I bounced. I know it's not possible sometimes, but some people use bullshit excuses at the end of every group.

[Yonkec]

Can everyone supporting the OPs opinion please follow up my post by giving me all of their character's names? I want to add you to my list of people who I choose not to group with.

Last time I plugged it into my calculator RL > Video Games. If other players having a life inconveniences you feel free to whip out the ol' gameboy. Nobody can shit on your day if its a single player game, right?

[Erica]

Originally Posted by Yonkec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can everyone supporting the OPs opinion please follow up my post by giving me all of their character's names? I want to add you to my list of people who I choose not to group with.

The point here isn't that if you have a life then we hate you. It is when you KNOW you are going to have to leave soon, but say nothing. That is extremely rude considering how long it can take a replacement to get to the group sometimes. This isn't WoW where you disband and in 5 seconds a new person teleports into the group. Most of the RL stuff isn't a huge surprise that you had no idea was going to happen and now you have to instantly leave the group.

Some examples of a bad reason to leave without warning: Going to bed because you have work in the morning, going to the movie theater when you had planned it out hours in advance, eating food at home around your regular time or out of the house with friends/family when it was planned in advance, picking your significant other or child up from X (unless you were not supposed to, but had just found out you need to now), friend or family showing up at the time you had planned in advance, etc etc.

Those examples above can become good reasons to leave without warning: Family or friends come over without warning, or you didn't have to pick up your significant other/child from X but suddenly something happened and now you have to do it, eating at a non regular time, spontaneously your family or friends want you to go out to eat with them, work called and wants you to come in early and you have to go to bed now instead of in a few hours, etc etc.

See the difference? One is the person being inconsiderate, and one is "RL happens". If something comes up, just tell the group and apologize for leaving so suddenly. If the people get upset about a legitimate RL thing causing you to suddenly leave, then they are being unreasonable. Everyone agrees RL > Gaming.... well, most people :P

And if you think the above is unreasonable, then please add me to your list: Karmina

[Hollywood]

Originally Posted by Tankdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

7th time reading that since starting here on P99 last week.

Did we forget to give a warning or something? You know, finding replacements and whatnot? I guess its better than just randomly dropping, which seems to happen even more frequently. My "never group with again" list keeps filling up.

I had some dick head get snotty with me because I asked him (in a non snotty way), if he had found a replacement [this is after he announced he had to leave in "five minutes"].
The reason? Because earlier in the day I had to leave the group for a bit, and I was unable to find a replacement for myself. This departure of mine was clearly stated in the beginning as well and when I left, they were in no way a broken group or unable to continue.

So the short of it was, I couldn't find a replacement for me, and thus he didn't feel he should have to either.

I guess fu**ing over a group to make a point that no one would have known you were making otherwise, it's a perfectly normal thing to do. And even more silly is that there was no point to make since the other person didn't intentionally do anything!

Shit is classic!

[Yonkec]

So if I just secretly lie to everyone and tell them my newborn child just woke up unexpectedly and I need to dip it makes it ok? I know that is taking this to another extreme but how are we to descern the truth in these situations?

Unfortunately none of us actually know what is going on with most people and if they join and leave on their own schedule its an exercise in futility to try to control or influence that. I am not defending people who intentional fuck over a group nor ones that ask other people to run 12 zones across the game to join them only to /log because they are tired. I am only humored by people trying to treat this like something it is not, e.g. the OP. This is not a social contract with a bunch of people who have nothing better to do than play this game all day and thus can be reasonably held responsible when they decide not to. Why must each of us adhere to someone else's strict set of behavioral rules?

I will not treat this GAME as a higher priority than anything other than a wart in my real life, and I will never ever ask one of you to either. If we are not in agreement I will do the legwork for you all and make sure I don't group with you as my sense of humor would probably only cause issues.

Just remember I love all of you equally and wish you the best.