Guys, TMO is still killing dragons...

[White Ranger Rides]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

op is faggot

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Insane-Truthteller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anything that requires this much rule-lawyer text to explain that your tactics are 'ok' probably isn't all that genuine in the spirit of PNP

Just the opposite. Having to explain this so you and others have to understand is taxing. It's in plain english and you guys seem to be struggling to grasp it.

[Kasyra]

Originally Posted by Hashire [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of curiosity do any of you 79 people that were logged into KC last night 35 seconds after VS pop A: Have a career, B: A life, C: a female of some sort other then your mother/grandmother in your home, or did you just sit at char select staring at your character and your phone that your mom bought you ready to click "enter world" when a text message from "Other Lonely Virgin" sent a batphone?

Please, tell us more about how awesome you are...oh wait, youre posting here too so nevermind.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA's raid force was at illis jail when Trak popped, 6 minutes prior they had aggroed a see invis jugg at the invis wall. That was too close apparently. The rule still doesn't specify how close is too close. We found out by being suspended and have asked for clarification since. Toeing the line and not getting suspended is success?

BDA had members at poop mountain 4 minutes before he spawned. I know I was there tracking. A few had moved back to illis jail before then but not all. Then they eventually moved back as well. Trak spawned and all of your members that had been in Trak's lair not even 10 minutes before "Practicing to engage" came storming back into his lair. Trying to compare KC ZL to what BDA did at that Trak is just not very intelligent.

Your guild cleared mobs that would have been in the way prior to his spawning and just ran back in when he spawned. It was a clear violation of rules what happened there. You had a raid there clearing mobs and they were part of the raid that engaged and killed Trak. FE/IB and TMO sitting at KC ZL or any zone line not killing anything close to targets is nowhere near the same.

[Emsee]

[Q]The class R guilds are always erring on the side of caution when it comes to bending the rules. They don't want to piss off the GMs and get raid banned. They're trying to follow the PNP rules and lawyer as little as possible. On the other hand, the class C guilds are constantly brainstorming ways to bend the rules and work around the PNP and new raid policies[/Q]

lol

[White Ranger Rides]

Originally Posted by Insane-Truthteller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

interesting.....so when a FE cleric was exping in LCY half way tru VS's window, was this to clear the courtyard so FE could run through unhindered by mobs

or was did he just have a craving for crappy KC group exp at 1 am

gosh darn, i mean with only 16 hours windows bros think about it, thats barely the Pain Soul camp you guys have each done 3-4 times. This aint shit, VS = the new loot piñata

What?

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No where does it say 2 guild members in the zone. It says "Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location.". No one ever said you couldn't have people at the zone line. In fact it never uses the word zone at all. "Raid Spawn Location" I think everyone can understand what is too close to the spawn if you plan to engage it. If you misunderstood the rules and camped out in DL that isn't the fault of other guilds.

I would also like to note that BDA was CLEARING MOBS to GET CLOSER TO TRAK FASTER (even if they happened to leave, it helped gain an advantage).

If the "5 extra people" at zone in were clearing all the mobs between ZI and LCY to VS pit, then I could see the argument.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Insane-Truthteller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the race ended 3 seconds after he spawned when their warrior/cleric duo stalled waiting on the rest of the guild to kill it

TMO/FE/IB were poopsocking in the room and engaged him in the room

there was no race, only stall tactics covered by smoke and mirrors

VS's PNP needs to be examined by the guild leaders

Every point you made is false

[Detoxx]

ITT:

Casuals get beat, and cry.

More at 11!

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ITT:

Casuals get beat, and cry.

More at 11!

It's not even that they were beat. They weren't even there! Like what, 10 taken in zone?