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Old 12-30-2013, 06:49 PM
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I get that, just think it happens anyway and doesn't really add much except some added complexity to the system.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:50 PM
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It isn't overly complex I think. Mobs are worth 1 point or 2. It's easy to rebalance based on what works.
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:48 PM
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Bump for a non-retarded raid proposal. Mobs for all 2014.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
Proud owner of Innoruuk's Curse that did NOT come from TMO's bank or RMT.
Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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Old 12-30-2013, 09:52 PM
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Yinikren, is Taken generally on board with this sort of system (maybe not exactly, but in spirit)? Just curious.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:00 PM
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Absolutely NO other raiding system proposed by anyone on this server so far, is comparable to this for simplicity.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:12 PM
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Absolutely NO other raiding system proposed by anyone on this server so far, is comparable to this for simplicity.
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Give every guild a weekly allowance (certain amount) let's say 100.

Give every raid target a value based on demand, let's say PD is valued at 50.

Any guild that takes out PD is now left with only 50 raid allowance.

Then just go from there. CT/Inny/VS/ could all be set at 30. VP dragons (except PD) could be 10s along with Kunark world dragons. Draco could be a 15. Vox/Naggy/maestro 10s.

DKP yo!

IDK, something like that could easily be tracked and gives some weekly planning by each guild.

I kinda proposed it awhile back lol.
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:17 PM
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Yendor, I wish I had a better answer for you. But I am not a taken spokesperson unfortunately.

I've posted in my forums and I've gotten reasonable support both here and on the forums from my own guild members, but I have not received endorsement from leadership as to if they have seriously considered this idea, if that makes sense.

Without sounding over the top, I would say that the majority of the guild is on board with a proposal like mine.

Hell, at this point I can comfortably say that the majority of the server not in TMO/FE is on board with a proposal like mine. There's no bias and no drawbacks and the only people who don't like it are those who are having mobs removed from them regardless.

Motec, coming from IB, endorses this as the fairest proposal. Coming from the other side of the fence, that is huge to me.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
Proud owner of Innoruuk's Curse that did NOT come from TMO's bank or RMT.
Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:39 PM
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No problem... I understand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Keep fighting the good fight!
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:41 PM
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Last I heard, the idea was being used but not completely, I.e a convoluted mess like FE's proposal. We need a weekly system like this to have a decent chance at a clean raid scene on P99.

Is BDA on board with my idea, or a version of it?

Are any other guilds for this kind of idea? Europa, Divinity, A team, Azure Guard?

Edit: I can't reply to my guild boards on my phone at work, but I am seeing more and more support from my guild as time goes on. It is also ubiquitous amongst the guild that we do not agree with FEs proposal at all. I am sure you guys don't either.
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Look, I really want to make this better for the nonhardcores here. But if a small faction of people is going to cockblock progress because they're not getting exactly what they want.....
Abomination Snowman - 60 Grave Lord
Proud owner of Innoruuk's Curse that did NOT come from TMO's bank or RMT.
Niluvien Forestwalker - 52 Ranger
Russled Jimmies - 54 Wizard
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:10 PM
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I'm not here to speak on behalf of BDA, but I think this system makes a lot of sense. IMO, weekly system is way too restrictive with variance. Need a monthly system. Still, same basic backbone.

Need guild council too that determines which guilds are ineligible for raiding. This would handle splinter guilds attempting to bypass the rules.
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