Solutions to the Tunnel Trainer.

[druziil]

could you put a tether on her, so if she paths too far from the hut her hate list is wiped and she ports back? (don't dragons have similar mechanic but with summoning?) Or make her a more efficient killer, faster then sow speed, non snareable/rootable, train would end before it starts.

Also this is not just a evil race kos issue, they exploit buffs/heals to get people on her hate list as well

[Aadill]

Short of removing her and other NPCs from EC, I submit that making her unkillable and permarooted would be the best bet.

Tethering her could still result in exploitation of killing her in terms of killing for XP.

Removing faction does not fix chain agro due to buff/healing agro. Also it allows dark elves to use her as a guildmaster.

DTs, unless separate scripts from actual DTing mobs, would be screwed up across the board.

Summoning, same as above.

Removing Rinna completely, while not appropriate, would solve the problem of one npc, but assuming there are other high level NPCs that have actual value, this is not a viable option.


By permarooting with massive regen, the mob is unkillable and will not train anyone. This solution will provide only a slight added benefit to KoS folks. If you're kos, you should know to avoid the area anyway, but you get the added bonus of the mob not being able to come after you.


Also: A majority of the server population wanted a single zone in which a bunch of people will collect to trade goods. You got griefers targeting it. I'm all for EC Tunnel/NFP, but everyone in this thread seriously believed trains wouldn't happen? They always did on live. It's nothing new, and it's here to stay. You want it fixed? come up with viable solutions that aren't near sighted.

[toddfx]

Uhhh...really? People are this stupid?

1) Stop leaving your evil race AFK in the tunnel...
2) Wait for trainers to lose incentive and interest...
3) Win.

Seriously. The zone is enormous. Run 15 seconds north to the grass wall and hide out behind a tree something while you're AFK taking your shit or whatever it is that is so important.

And if you are using an EC trader alt, why in gods name would you make it an evil race? Even if you're selling on your evil main, you have no excuse to be bitching - you are sitting in ENEMY TERRITORY. I would never consider even going AFK in Nektolus or Feerrot or something for the plain and simple fact of being in dangerous enemy territory.

Trains happen - who gives a shit if it is on purpose or not. It happened on live, it's going to happen here, and the fact of the matter is that there is no classic way to prevent it.

Forcing GMs to alter the game or waste their time tracking down and kicking/banning people is just selfish. Learn to be self sufficient for god's sake and just sit somewhere else.

[Aandolaf]

Originally Posted by toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh...really? People are this stupid?

1) Stop leaving your evil race AFK in the tunnel...
2) Wait for trainers to lose incentive and interest...
3) Win.

Seriously. The zone is enormous. Run 15 seconds north to the grass wall and hide out behind a tree something while you're AFK taking your shit or whatever it is that is so important.

And if you are using an EC trader alt, why in gods name would you make it an evil race? Even if you're selling on your evil main, you have no excuse to be bitching - you are sitting in ENEMY TERRITORY. I would never consider even going AFK in Nektolus or Feerrot or something for the plain and simple fact of being in dangerous enemy territory.

Trains happen - who gives a shit if it is on purpose or not. It happened on live, it's going to happen here, and the fact of the matter is that there is no classic way to prevent it.

Forcing GMs to alter the game or waste their time tracking down and kicking/banning people is just selfish. Learn to be self sufficient for god's sake and just sit somewhere else.

He has been doing this for a long while now, doesn't look like he is going to stop soon. He regularly runs through ec looking for evils not in the tunnel. So if you sat out in the grass, or further back in the tunnel, you will still get trained.

[Lucrio40]

If he wanted to target evils, then he needs to have some style.

Like this guy

But in all honesty, it is amazing to me how much people are basically defending this guy. As I said before, yes trains in EC are classic, but on live servers when these people got banned they lost a CD key that they payed 40-50 bucks for as well as the rest of the month they payed for.

On here, they just make a new account for free in less than 10 minutes and go right back to doing it again. Simply banning these people like was done in classic doesn't work because of that.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If he wanted to target evils, then he needs to have some style.

Like this guy

But in all honesty, it is amazing to me how much people are basically defending this guy. As I said before, yes trains in EC are classic, but on live servers when these people got banned they lost a CD key that they payed 40-50 bucks for as well as the rest of the month they payed for.

On here, they just make a new account for free in less than 10 minutes and go right back to doing it again. Simply banning these people like was done in classic doesn't work because of that.

Ok...this is most likely the funniest EQ-related thing i have ever seen. Don't get me wrong, i'd probably be really pissed if I was one of the people getting killed over and over, and I would never have done this myself, but his commentary and all the people /telling him, etc is quite hilarious.

[Elissa]

Originally Posted by toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh...really? People are this stupid?

1) Stop leaving your evil race AFK in the tunnel...
2) Wait for trainers to lose incentive and interest...
3) Win.

Seriously. The zone is enormous. Run 15 seconds north to the grass wall and hide out behind a tree something while you're AFK taking your shit or whatever it is that is so important.

And if you are using an EC trader alt, why in gods name would you make it an evil race? Even if you're selling on your evil main, you have no excuse to be bitching - you are sitting in ENEMY TERRITORY. I would never consider even going AFK in Nektolus or Feerrot or something for the plain and simple fact of being in dangerous enemy territory.

Trains happen - who gives a shit if it is on purpose or not. It happened on live, it's going to happen here, and the fact of the matter is that there is no classic way to prevent it.

Forcing GMs to alter the game or waste their time tracking down and kicking/banning people is just selfish. Learn to be self sufficient for god's sake and just sit somewhere else.

I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say it's obvious you haven't read the entire thread. Every "argument," "solution," "I would never do that! Why are you?," and "Deal with it." statements you have provided have been thoroughly addressed in multiple ways.

[Dantes]

Is there a way to just fix faction with Rinna? Hell, if I could do that I would just stand around and be a decoy.

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a way to just fix faction with Rinna? Hell, if I could do that I would just stand around and be a decoy.

She's Qeynos factions -- Priests of Life. Gnolls, then gold and bone chips to Lashun Novashine would do it.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhhh...really? People are this stupid?

1) Stop leaving your evil race AFK in the tunnel...
2) Wait for trainers to lose incentive and interest...
3) Win.

Seriously. The zone is enormous. Run 15 seconds north to the grass wall and hide out behind a tree something while you're AFK taking your shit or whatever it is that is so important.

And if you are using an EC trader alt, why in gods name would you make it an evil race? Even if you're selling on your evil main, you have no excuse to be bitching - you are sitting in ENEMY TERRITORY. I would never consider even going AFK in Nektolus or Feerrot or something for the plain and simple fact of being in dangerous enemy territory.

Trains happen - who gives a shit if it is on purpose or not. It happened on live, it's going to happen here, and the fact of the matter is that there is no classic way to prevent it.

Forcing GMs to alter the game or waste their time tracking down and kicking/banning people is just selfish. Learn to be self sufficient for god's sake and just sit somewhere else.

while I agree with this what this post says regarding AFKers, I still think it's fair for a low level of an evil race to be in the tunnel when not AFK (just doing a trade presumably). By the time you find out Rinna's been trained you might already be dead, or not have enough time to run away.

Also, changing the game un-classically to stop the trainers is just stupid. It's not that big of a problem. Let it go and stop whining.