No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bold # 1: i guess you never learned along the way that this is a free-to-play server run by volunteers. who exactly are you to be telling the GMs and developers what they should be doing? this isn't Buma's Classic Server, this is Project 1999. i guess you still haven't figured out what me and others have been trying to tell you -- you're not entitled to anything in this game.

bold # 2: the code does normally allow it. in fact, it's been allowing it since the server's conception. this isn't classic EQ, remember? it's only an emulated version of it. if this were an exploit that needed to be fixed, they would have fixed it by now.

bold #3: i guess i'll be the one to let you know: the server isn't past the PoP expansion. in fact, we're only in Kunark right now.

bold #4: this just came to light for you. i'm fairly certain this has been known to others players for several years now.

1. Yes FTP doesn't mean they allow exploits. I am not telling GM or Devs to do anything, as a player we are all entitles to bring up exploits and bugs to the staff so that they can fix them and make the game more enjoyable to those who wish to progress legitimately on content and not have an exploitative edge to pass through quicker.

2. Just because you have code that allows it doesn't mean it's legal to exploit the code to an unfair advantage. As I said this is P99 yes but any exploit they will fix regardless if it impacts the server. In this case as an example players who corpse key AC ring is a major flaw.

3. This is why we got smart people running the server and not you. Because by your logic it's okay to have exploits on P99 and not fix them because Live didn't fix them till after Kunark era. If exploits were found they were fixed on Live, it's not part of normal content that they would allow them just because they got fixed at a later date. If it interferes with the game the P99 staff will fix any major exploit no matter if it was a later date past Kunark or not, at least I would hope so. For example if a exploit was found where it gave every player 5000 plat a day free and it wasn't found out and fixed till after Velious on Live and the Devs left it in P99 then it would harm the economy and server for good, so why would they let that go? They would fix it because exploits do not need to be date permitted for fixes, at least I hope they wouldn't because integrity is worth more than following a guide line they made up.

4. Yes it just came to my attention today, doesn't mean it's any less substantial. If a murderer has been on the loose for 30 years and the cops finally found out he has been killing for 30 years, does that make the murderer any less substantial? No of course not.

Use the quote function for fucks sake, trying to follow your post is like doing a choose your own adventure book.

Side note, choose your own adventure books were awesome.

[indiscriminate_hater]

buma -- you have used the word "exploit" in some form 17 times in your past 2 posts. is there any post or rule by a GM or dev, ANYWHERE, which describes having lore items on multiple corpses as an exploit on this server? or is this just another case of Buma's Entitlement, where whatever the fuck doesn't helm him should be fixed?

and to fix your terrible analogy: the killer has been on the loose for the past 30 years but the cops know exactly where he is living, in plain sight, yet have decided not to bring him in. this is because 30 years ago the cops decided the killer was not actually breaking the law. classic era EQ was georgia, project 1999 is new york -- different jurisdictions, different laws.

[Buma]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

buma -- you have used the word "exploit" in some form 17 times in your past 2 posts. is there any post or rule by a GM or dev, ANYWHERE, which describes having lore items on multiple corpses as an exploit on this server? or is this just another case of Buma's Entitlement, where whatever the fuck doesn't helm him should be fixed?

and to fix your terrible analogy: the killer has been on the loose for the past 30 years but the cops know exactly where he is living, in plain sight, yet have decided not to bring him in. this is because 30 years ago the cops decided the killer was not actually breaking the law. classic era EQ was georgia, project 1999 is new york -- different jurisdictions, different laws.

I see you using the word entitlement often. Using that word because it's on the social forefronts of the internet isn't making you look any smarter. You took a word that you thought had strong meaning when it only applies to conceptual politics. I hate to stress to you the vagueness of your posts but I think I am done here.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see you using the word entitlement often. Using that word because it's on the social forefronts of the internet isn't making you look any smarter. You took a word that you thought had strong meaning when it only applies to conceptual politics. I hate to stress to you the vagueness of your posts but I think I am done here.

I bet you tried real hard to write this, and so I don't want to be too critical, but seriously, you don't have the chops to play Mr. Articulate Poster. It's always embarrassing when individuals with poor to mediocre vocabulary and writing skills, try to act all egghead-y. It's like a fat chick in yoga pants: it don't work.

WTF is "conceptual politics"?

[indiscriminate_hater]

good deflection.

but hey, at least we can agree on something: i think you're done here, too!

[Dirkus]

Keep going.

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[fadetree]

That was not a good deflection.

[Spitty]

Choose your own adventure books were awesome. I'd go back and A+++ read-that-again all day.

This thread, however, descended into utter bullshit. Buma, you can't fucking call someone to task for using the word "entitlement" when you are clearly feeling entitled to other people's time and money:

as a player we are all entitles to bring up exploits and bugs to the staff so that they can fix them

You don't deserve jack-goddamn-shit, especially not with your attitude. You can submit bugs, or what you think are bugs, and the people who do have to spend their own time and money to fix them will take your submissions under review.

If it turns out that the bug isn't worth fixing, or the bug is actually in your perception of how you think things should be, then maybe it's time to wise up and accept the possibility that you're wrong.

That's what level-headed adults do. Kids rip the cereal box up and make a tragic mess because there's no toy at the bottom, without reading the fucking box to see if a toy was ever there in the first place. That's you. You're the kid. Grow the fuck up.

[kylok]

Buma are you suggesting that people don't corpse their sky rings? Cause that's just silly.

[Splorf22]

I think everyone on this forum should be forced to name their ingame accounts