Drama

[Shewz]

Uhh, mobs at the king camp are fairly sparse in my experience. They were a full group, they had plenty of lull power, I figured they would want the xp and the entertainment of killing a full spawn. Sorry? Read the original deal.

[President]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are trying to call me an asshole here (I think some of you are confusing me with soup) so let me clear some things up:

1. I am bound at king.

2. I broke the spawn before I was aware that they were on CR. King is very rarely camped by a group. I'm not on the same plane as a necro camping AM/Lord/Frenzy.

3. I let the spawn repop fully because I didn't expect the m2h to pop and wanted to leave them with some mobs to kill in case it didn't.

4. They knew why I was zoning, because I told them.

^^ So those are all the 100% true facts.

Whether you have evidence to back it up or not, you should really include everything in the initial post. This can be construed as "Oh shit they are finding flaws in my story I need to go post some other facts." Not that I am saying you are lying, but in the future, include everything in your original post.

Here's the grey area part of the story that addresses "Shewz zoned because he's a failure"

If you need to zone while trying to hold a camp you can lose the camp per the rules, period, end of story.

I didn't put this in the original post because I couldn't prove it with screenshots. As soon as the group saw the M2H king, they had no intention of keeping the deal.

Assumption.

They started snaking guards out of the camp (they later claimed: We killed some guards, so we broke the camp, therefore king is ours). They killed the Bok Knight, which is what I use for my pet. This means I had to use a Kor Shaman as my pet instead.

Part unprovable, part assumption, and part irrelevant. If you can't use whats in front of you to clear the camp, then you can't clear the camp.

This also meant that I knew they were breaking the deal. This added a whole lot of pressure. I was essentially racing against them to aggro the king. I am perfectly capable of efficiently holding the king camp, without zoning, when there isn't a full group racing me and killing my pet mob.

Part assumption, part unprovable, all should have been included in the initial post.

And really, this isn't about server rules. I just wanted to document people being rabid assholes for my own catharsis BEFORE Autum gave me the sword.

Also, the M2H is in the hands of a guildie.

Once again, an enchanter who gates in, doesn't call CC, takes a camp from a group he KNOWS had been camping there aside from having to get group replacements, and you call other people a dick?

I still see this as pretty accurate even though you were bound there:

"Hey, I understand you guys were going to pick up two new members of your group and had a mini wipe, but since I didn't call CC and ran down to the camp and started clearing it, I am going to take the weapon you have been camping for X amount of time even though one of your players needs it."


In Addition: Slappie, if he is an app, will definitely be looked at for his rude/vulgar/lying attitude towards you.

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Stepy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"1. I am bound at king."
OK, I would guess you would be camping king for loot since you plan of doing the rinse and repeat method, rather for cash or guildies.

"3. I let the spawn re pop fully because I didn't expect the m2h to pop and wanted to leave them with some mobs to kill in case it didn't."

This is a little more interesting to me, either you were giving up the camp and wanted to make sure it was full pop so they would have to work for it. You prefer a challenge and wanted a full spawn so you could continue to rely on the charm and zone strat?
This particular statement of your leads me to believe you were planing on leaving and wanted it to be full spawn first and changed your mind when you saw named.
Having several boys this is a common practice when they have to share something they do not give up so willingly.

Yea, considering he had such a rough time he had to zone (or at least zone to make it easier) when you don't have to zone and then actually wait for the repops to then make it harder on himself? The whole thing is a mess, and i think it was a matter of both miscommunication and a misunderstanding from both parties, but w/e. These things happen all the time, it just so happens there's a mithril 2hander involved that sparked this debate.

Either way it's done, dude just got a 10k item from my guildie who would have been using it even though he lost a roll and proceeds to rant about how we have bad attitudes. Take your sword, sell it. Nobody cares

[President]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I hadn't seen Shewz's most recent post when I made mine, but it confirms my previous belief that a) the group knew what they were doing, b) he was bound in the King safe hall, and c) the entire "zoning" ordeal likely took less than a full 60 seconds, which renders any kind of defense of the King kill moot. It's one thing if the guy's not there, the group is standing around, and they sake "fuck this, he's not here -- let's take it." But it takes, what? 45 seconds to run to portal, load to Innothule, then gate? They had to be waiting on it, and they had to have engaged the SECOND he zoned out. It's low, it just is.

As low as it is to take a mob when someone zones for 60 seconds, it's just as low to take a mob from a group who was getting replacements and had been camping the mob for X amount of time with players that needed it.

[Nocte]

There sure are a lot of assumptions made here about what my group was there to do and what everyone's intentions were. I'm glad I took screenshots of my group's chat and the few tells I sent to Shewz during our time down there. When I get home from work, and can post from somewhere other than my Blackberry, I may post everything leading up to me throwing my hands up in disgust and gating out of the situation before the king was dead.

I'm sure it won't matter, since the drama wagon is careering out of control, but maybe folks can assume less.

[Shewz]

Man you're just trollin me now

[President]

Originally Posted by Shewz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man you're just trollin me now

Hey man. Both groups were partially in the wrong. They rolled you 1v1 for it, you lost, you came to cry on the forums. Just pointing out the facts.

[Nocte]

I think you might be surprised.

[President]

Originally Posted by Nocte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you might be surprised.

This in response to me Nocte? I am very interested to see what you have when you get home.

[Shewz]

Oh man Nocte is gonna crank this shit up to 11, I am so ridiculously excited.