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[Skope]

Treats, you bring up a good point, but unfortunately it's already answered. How and whether this pertains to the situation at hand I frankly don't know and don't care.

When a player zones they lose it, period. As an enchanter you don't have to zone to hold/clear that camp, you do it because it makes it easier.

Had I been there, you'd better believe he wouldn't have had another shot. If that's how you choose to clear it, you'd better find another way that doesn't invite such controversy.

[Nocte]

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[President]

So they were still going to give Shewz the King even after he zoned once.. But after zoning a second time pulled the same camp rules on Shewz that Shewz pulled on them... THEN let Shewz roll for it.. and Shewz lost and came crying to the forums...

Nice...

[nicemace]

protip: calm lasts 3 mins and works on all the mobs in the king room.

calm everything and charm bok then kill roaming dar in the hallway. once dar is dead re-calm and pull king to hall, control dmg on pet with whirl. dont need to zone/camp to let pet heal.

[Stepy]

Reading those logs it was apparent they were patient and gave plenty of opportunity I believe they were sincere in letting the chanter having her shot. It seems the chanter was having a little trouble with spawns and kept zoning despite claiming to have broken the camp. It was nice of the to give her a shot at winning the sword and then later gave it to her anyway, happy selling. Aside from showing the chanter plenty of courtesy she still came here and started a flame anyway.

[Nocte]

Originally Posted by Stepy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading those logs it was apparent they were patient and gave plenty of opportunity I believe they were sincere in letting the chanter having her shot. It seems the chanter was having a little trouble with spawns and kept zoning despite claiming to have broken the camp. It was nice of the to give her a shot at winning the sword and then later gave it to her anyway, happy selling. Aside from showing the chanter plenty of courtesy she still came here and started a flame anyway.

I have to admit that this is the opposite reaction I expected from my posted screenshots. I think my group threw out integrity and acted like a bunch of greedy children because the item in question was valuable.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Nocte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have to admit that this is the opposite reaction I expected from my posted screenshots. I think my group threw out integrity and acted like a bunch of greedy children because the item in question was valuable.

That's bullshit, Nocte. Elisa was giving a play-by-play on the server camp rules in those screenshots. She/he knew exactly who had rights to the camp and when. There's a difference between "acting like greedy children" and being assertive and sticking up for your groupmates so you don't get walked all over by someone trying to play the "oh i claimed the camp cuz you left, but um, hey i left too but the camp is somehow still mine, remember that agreement we hadddddddddd??? right guys? right??????" game.

[President]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"oh i claimed the camp cuz you left, but um, hey i left too but the camp is somehow still mine, remember that agreement we hadddddddddd??? right guys? right??????"

I like this.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Looks like the group were mindful of the rules the entire time and careful not to violate them. Shews gave up the camp when he zoned. Just like they gave up the camp when they left it and Shews moved in. And the whole ridiculous BS was making Nocte sick to his stomach, and I don't blame him.

Douchebag move to claim the camp after the enchanter zones?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to claim the camp after a group wipes and is doing CR?

Douchebag move to reneg on an agreement made by an enchanter who had the rights to the camp who then lost those rights when he zoned?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to go after phat lewts he can't even use over a group that I presume contains at least one melee who can?

Douchebaggery is all relative and subjective.

So we're left with the camping rules -- at least those can be quantified objectively. Lesson learned: if you want to maintain your camp, do not zone. Do anything BUT zone. Otherwise, you lose your camp. Unless the new made-up rule now is groups can zone out ad infinitum and retain their camps without being present at the camp.

[soup]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like the group were mindful of the rules the entire time and careful not to violate them. Shews gave up the camp when he zoned. Just like they gave up the camp when they left it and Shews moved in. And the whole ridiculous BS was making Nocte sick to his stomach, and I don't blame him.

Douchebag move to claim the camp after the enchanter zones?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to claim the camp after a group wipes and is doing CR?

Douchebag move to reneg on an agreement made by an enchanter who had the rights to the camp who then lost those rights when he zoned?

Douchebag move for a solo caster to go after phat lewts he can't even use over a group that I presume contains at least one melee who can?

Douchebaggery is all relative and subjective.

So we're left with the camping rules -- at least those can be quantified objectively. Lesson learned: if you want to maintain your camp, do not zone. Do anything BUT zone. Otherwise, you lose your camp. Unless the new made-up rule now is groups can zone out ad infinitum and retain their camps without being present at the camp.

Even Nocte, the cleric from the group, is saying his group acted like greedy children because the item in question was valuable, but you're STILL going on with this "HE ZONED HE LOST IT" shit.