Server not thriving anymore

[KabanazyTZ]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance would be terrible for everyone all around. Just look what blue has turned into.

On red this is not needed since if you want a boss all you need to do is pvp for it.

We can't field a big enough group to contest you guys for mobs on Sundays. Azrael has been pushing for variance ever since the resets that allowed you guys to get your mobs on such nice timers.

Variance would benefit Azrael/Dentists/wheover as it there might be an occasion where something spawns when we actually have a number advantage.

The fact that in order to down the biggest mobs on the box currently, all you guys have to do is tell your 50+ active member guild to log in Sunday morning and run zone to zone it makes it near impossible for anyone to contest. Whereas Azrael's largest raid group (basically all active members online) consists of ~26 people, plus if they're willing maybe 5-10 dentists.

You may think that variance would hurt the server, but it would give the rest of the server a chance at loot that Nihilum has a pretty large monopoly on right now.

[Shrubwise]

Guys, let's get back on topic. Variance is a silly notion. Thread's been derailed. IMHO we need to get back to talking about how hostile an environment we play in and that's why we are all assholes. Oh, and Nihilum.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by KabanazyTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We can't field a big enough group to contest you guys for mobs on Sundays. Azrael has been pushing for variance ever since the resets that allowed you guys to get your mobs on such nice timers.

Variance would benefit Azrael/Dentists/wheover as it there might be an occasion where something spawns when we actually have a number advantage.

The fact that in order to down the biggest mobs on the box currently, all you guys have to do is tell your 50+ active member guild to log in Sunday morning and run zone to zone it makes it near impossible for anyone to contest. Whereas Azrael's largest raid group (basically all active members online) consists of ~26 people, plus if they're willing maybe 5-10 dentists.

You may think that variance would hurt the server, but it would give the rest of the server a chance at loot that Nihilum has a pretty large monopoly on right now.

The largest raid Nihilum has had since Jan was 36 people, the average raid size is 26-28. There were 35 people at the non Nihilum Trak kill the other week. So please don't tell me you cannot field equal or similar numbers.

Variance is not classic. All it would mean is trackers at every boss spawn and then a bat phone going out once the mob spawns. If as you claim nihilum has 50+ people and the other guilds have much less then who do you think has a better chance to form an attempt on a boss at moments notice at 1pm.

One BIG reason many people came to red is no variance. Yes some of those people are in Nihilum but keep in mind people in Nihilum help this box grow as much as any others.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Shrubwise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guys, let's get back on topic. Variance is a silly notion. Thread's been derailed. IMHO we need to get back to talking about how hostile an environment we play in and that's why we are all assholes. Oh, and Nihilum.

First step to reducing this is to remove global ooc. To add in global Auction and ONLY allow auctions to be posted in that channel. Once global ooc is removed the sense of much of the hostility would be removed.

So many people have told me they came to play on red only to quit within an hour because of how bad global ooc is.

[Shrubwise]

Easily solved. Do as I have done. Navigate to Options --> Filters --> Out of Character. Select 'Hide'. BAM IMMERSION!

Next.

[Cars]

If they introduced variance on red I would stop leveling right now.

No variance = no bat phones = regular hour raid times = chance for true competition

Originally Posted by KabanazyTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We can't field a big enough group to contest you guys YET...for mobs on Sundays. Azrael has been pushing for variance ever since the resets that allowed you guys to get your mobs on such nice timers.

FTFY.

This server just needs a few up and commers and some diplomacy between guilds, from what I have seen, you might have some LeBron's in the next draft. Do your best to make sure they don't get absorbed into the empire

[Shrubwise]

SNIPERS

[KabanazyTZ]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they introduced variance on red I would stop leveling right now.

No variance = no bat phones = regular hour raid times = chance for true competition




FTFY.

This server just needs a few up and commers and some diplomacy between guilds, from what I have seen, you might have some LeBron's in the next draft. Do your best to make sure they don't get absorbed into the empire

No batphones?? Are u kidding the 3 top guilds all use a batphone.

Also, yes we a group in the mid 30's range at trakanon. What you are failing to comprehend is that more than 10 were Dentists and we were gathering for over 3 hours. That's not an instant login because something is up and get there. The batphone was sent out at like 1am est, and we didnt have everyone there until about 4am est.

The average Azrael raid force is between 14-22, most of those people are online at regular intervals. Stop trying to compare numbers with us Eldaran, your guild dwarfs us and everyone knows it.

In the argument of varience, if on the off chance that something like Sev spawned at midnight est, there's a higher chance of Azrael killing it than Nihilum getting people batphoned in in time.

[Stinkum]

Variance is an awful idea and would turn this server into another career virgin shit-sock fest like it is on Blue.

If you want a raid mob then get your nut up and PVP for it, that's what this server is all about.

[KabanazyTZ]

.....Meanwhile Azrael and Dentists, waiting for more people to join the good fight, will sit here watching Nihilum knock out every spawn on Sunday mornings because nobody has the numbers to contest them in mass guild pvp.