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Old 02-07-2025, 09:54 PM
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Governing by executive order only goes so far.
It's been 20 years and you still don't believe in the unitary executive. C'mon man!
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Old 02-07-2025, 10:04 PM
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Your vote and opinion do actually matter. From his inception as a politician, Trump was actually not ordained by the power brokers, and they did everything they could to bury him. Though the Trump movement has been a catastrophe for different reasons, his election was a singular victory for populist representation in the face of the corrupting influence of concentrated money.

Unfortunately, his second term is going nearly exactly how his first term went. He is leveraging every means available to him to prove he has POWER and INFLUENCE, which is exactly what he doesn't have, because he doesn't control Congress-- he's very close to a lame duck. Political theatrics, banging pots and pans while locked out of the kitchen.

Notice he hasn't actually done anything that would leave him open to being humiliated by congress like he was in his first term, and most of what he has done has been held up in the courts or walked back.

So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.
The rich got richer under biden, and more billionares back him than trump, what say you?
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Old 02-07-2025, 10:13 PM
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The rich got richer under biden, and more billionares back him than trump, what say you?
Two things can be true at the same time. Democrats are infested with corporate rot, and Republicans too, but the extent and symptoms of infestation manifest differently.

Biden did not have control over the Senate and thus had little to no power without making shitty, corrupt deals with the corporate Senate. He was also severely demented and seemingly slept through most of his presidency.

I am not advocating for Biden or Pelosi or any of them. Americans need to rediscover unionization and trust-busting, and that can occur through either Democrats or Republicans. The free market made this country great and people need to be reminded that an economy dominated by monopolies and cartels is not a free market. Systematically dismantling the few checks left on corporate power, as the Project 2025 people are currently trying to do, is movement in the wrong direction, which is worse than the simple lack of any movement that occurred under Biden.
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Old 02-07-2025, 10:20 PM
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Your vote and opinion do actually matter. From his inception as a politician, Trump was actually not ordained by the power brokers, and they did everything they could to bury him. Though the Trump movement has been a catastrophe for different reasons, his election was a singular victory for populist representation in the face of the corrupting influence of concentrated money.

Unfortunately, his second term is going nearly exactly how his first term went. He is leveraging every means available to him to prove he has POWER and INFLUENCE, which is exactly what he doesn't have, because he doesn't control Congress-- he's very close to a lame duck. Political theatrics, banging pots and pans while locked out of the kitchen.

Notice he hasn't actually done anything that would leave him open to being humiliated by congress like he was in his first term, and most of what he has done has been held up in the courts or walked back.

So yea, enjoy your entertainment while it lasts. Governing by executive order only goes so far.
Getting Mexico to agree to send thousands of their troops to the border to me screamed complete political posturing by Mexico to avoid a tariff. I pictured the Mexican President laughing as she cheers a wine glass with her team about easily playing Trump

But then again, I did hear illegal border crossings are now down 90%
https://nypost.com/2025/02/06/us-new...border-patrol/


The rest of the executive orders I hadn’t followed, but I do doubt that the protect women’s sports one will be overturned legally. That concept is one where supposedly like 78% of the American people surveyed said they supported, which is I believe the largest amount of Dems willing to side with Repubs on any issue, even higher than immigration or the economy


But the trimming the fat like firing 10,000+ USAA staff isn’t posturing, and although Trump didn’t do it directly he is taking all the credit

I, however, personally have some issues with the reach and power of Doge, and I have a personal dislike of micromanagement when I have experienced it in my job. I also dislike this idea that anyone who dislikes micromanagement by Big Brother must be cheating or cutting corners. It’s like I like the idea of having some semblance of privacy, and the respect to assume I’m doing what I’m supposed to. But I understand that some micromanagement is necessary
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Old 02-07-2025, 10:34 PM
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I, however, personally have some issues with the reach and power of Doge
I think DOGE gets alot more press then it should given that it's Elon, and it somehow has the same name as his meme coin (it's in the book of revelation somewhere probably)

While nothing like it has existed before, DOGE is basically nothing more then an advisory think tank to Trump. It can't do anything that Trump doesn't wanna do.

They don't have officers who can kick in doors, or the ability to independently dictate policy

When you hear DOGE did this or DOGE did that, it's the trump administration doing whatever based on their advice

We've all at one point of another said or thought that the US government should be subjected to audits, this is a good thing all around, it's a heck of alot more bipartisan then the legacy media will admit.

Most people want this to happen, those that don't like trump would have just preferred that it was "one of their own" who was doing it.
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But then again, I did hear illegal border crossings are now down 90%
https://nypost.com/2025/02/06/us-new...border-patrol/
Illegal border crossings?

My brother in Christ, 99% of the immigration issue is lawful asylum claims.
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Old 02-07-2025, 08:00 PM
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Old 02-07-2025, 09:34 PM
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it's literally hilarious you think i vote in primaries, or voted for Trump, last time i voted it was for Obama, the first time.

my district is between +15 and +20 for Republicans each cycle, maybe google what gerrymandering is, and Bush v Vera

something the party could have attempted to actually fight, when you know, they had power at the federal level at some point over the last 2 decades, but now they don't have any power and somehow it's something i should care about, when they abandoned me behind enemy lines a long long time ago just like the working class they claim to care so deeply about.

sucks to suck

tater tots n prayers tho.

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Old 02-07-2025, 09:58 PM
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it's literally hilarious you think i vote in primaries, or voted for Trump, last time i voted it was for Obama, the first time.

my district is between +30 and +45 for Republicans each cycle, maybe google what gerrymandering is you fucking retard lol.
Bitching about how your vote doesn't matter, and simultaneously can't be bothered to vote. Now extend that individual behavior out to a few million people and realize how dumb your "votes dont matter bro lol" argument is when taken in aggregate.

Also, your autistic screeching aside, gerrymandering is pretty irrelevant in primaries, which is where Texas chose Ted Cruz over Trump in 2016 (though Trump still ended up with 48 delegates that would contribute to his primary victory nationally), so every vote mattered. You don't even understand how civics work and I'm the retard lol. In cases where your vote gets thrown away because of gerrymandering, primaries are especially important and impactful, especially Republican primaries that aren't tainted by superdelegates.
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Bitching about how your vote doesn't matter, and simultaneously can't be bothered to vote. Now extend that individual behavior out to a few million people and realize how dumb your "votes dont matter bro lol" argument is when taken in aggregate.

Also, your autistic screeching aside, gerrymandering is pretty irrelevant in primaries, which is where Texas chose Ted Cruz over Trump in 2016 (though Trump still ended up with 48 delegates that would contribute to his primary victory nationally), so every vote mattered. You don't even understand how civics work and I'm the retard lol. In cases where your vote gets thrown away because of gerrymandering, primaries are especially important and impactful, especially Republican primaries that aren't tainted by superdelegates.
Cruz dropped out a month later because he didn't have a path, Trump got nearly 3x the delegates, after the Debate where Trump fucked up Cruz he had zero chance.
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Donald J. Trump:1,447
Ted Cruz: 551
doesn't really do much for your counter argument to my "yeah, this shit is decided where i don't live" also, why the fuck would i be voting for Cruz when i'm a Bluedog Democrat, it was Killary versus Larry David on our side, and remind me again how dirty the party did Sanders?

i might not be fluent in civics, but apparently you're confused about the reality were living in,

Hillary won 65% to 33% in the Texas primary, because on my team whomever MSNBC and their corporate overlords tells them the vote for, is how it's gonna be, so staying home and playing p99 was the correct choice in '16

you're basically an adult being told Santa Claus isn't real and your response is. "well, if enough people believe it's real, representative democracy actually works, hurr durr i'm very smart and a positive person" no, it literally doesn't outside of this fluke event where a populist shitposters won twice, this is the exception that proves the rule about a reality we've been living since 1961 and Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex.


but, go on. keep coping.
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