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Old 05-24-2019, 12:20 PM
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Obama was a good president and a decent person. Do you have any good opinions?
Obama was essentially a less ambitious Bush.

Being nice and well spoken doesn't make up for his shortcomings.
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Old 05-24-2019, 12:27 PM
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Obama was essentially a less ambitious Bush.

Being nice and well spoken doesn't make up for his shortcomings.
I think Obama was a fairly good president. Don't have to see eye to eye on everything.

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Old 05-25-2019, 05:01 AM
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Obama was a good president and a decent person. Do you have any good opinions?
During the housing crisis under Obama, active duty members of the armed forces had their homes foreclosed while they were deployed overseas in violation of law. Many of them committed suicide. Not a single bank executive served time.
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Old 05-24-2019, 12:38 PM
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Obama was a horrendous president on all fronts. He put us in a horrible position financially with trillions of dollars worth of bail outs for his banker buddies, a reward for predatory loans they already made tons of money off. Then race relations degraded almost entirely under him. He ran on a platform of obliqueness then kept the patriot act around. He had government funds sent to private organizations to produce propaganda. He instilled a bunch of liberal judges that act outside the constitution. Destroyed many decent neighborhoods with his policies of landing 60 iq poor somolians into upscale gentile neighborhoods. Politicized the federal reserve. Illegally used the justice system to spy on political rivals.

What's the argument that Obama did good for America?

Remember when buzzfeed and other tech all those lay offs earlier this year because social justice isn't profitable? Guess what? It was never profitable. The government gravy train to pay for state propaganda simply ran out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counte...nformation_Act

Thanks for all the destruction you've wreaked on American society Obama.
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:02 PM
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Obama was a horrendous president on all fronts. He put us in a horrible position financially with trillions of dollars worth of bail outs for his banker buddies, a reward for predatory loans they already made tons of money off. Then race relations degraded almost entirely under him. He ran on a platform of obliqueness then kept the patriot act around. He had government funds sent to private organizations to produce propaganda. He instilled a bunch of liberal judges that act outside the constitution. Destroyed many decent neighborhoods with his policies of landing 60 iq poor somolians into upscale gentile neighborhoods. Politicized the federal reserve. Illegally used the justice system to spy on political rivals.

What's the argument that Obama did good for America?

Remember when buzzfeed and other tech all those lay offs earlier this year because social justice isn't profitable? Guess what? It was never profitable. The government gravy train to pay for state propaganda simply ran out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counte...nformation_Act

Thanks for all the destruction you've wreaked on American society Obama.
Wasn't it Bush that bailed out the banks? He said he had to abandon the free market to save it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The banks should never have been bailed out. They should have taken their lumps for what they did. How are they ever going to learn if they keep being bailed out. It encourages them to do it again.

Of course, the banks did what they did because of policies put in place by the Clinton administration and continued in the Bush administration. But, that's no excuse. They could have done better.

I mostly agree with everything else in your post. I'd add: keep your doctor, lower costs... yeah, riiight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thanks a lot Obama. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:10 AM
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What a surprise since his grandfather was a director of a bank that had its assets seized under the Trading With the Enemy Act during WWII. Investigators concluded that the bank was controlled by Fritz Thyssen, a steel monopolist whose memoir was entitled I Paid Hitler.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:39 AM
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Wasn't it Bush that bailed out the banks? He said he had to abandon the free market to save it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The banks should never have been bailed out. They should have taken their lumps for what they did. How are they ever going to learn if they keep being bailed out. It encourages them to do it again.

Of course, the banks did what they did because of policies put in place by the Clinton administration and continued in the Bush administration. But, that's no excuse. They could have done better.

I mostly agree with everything else in your post. I'd add: keep your doctor, lower costs... yeah, riiight. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thanks a lot Obama. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
There were two rounds of massive bailouts. Banks made all these predatory loans that were never sustainable and poor business practice, they weren't sustainable, they should of gone out of business, but instead were greatly awarded.

What other business can you pile crippling debt due to greed and get billion dollar bailouts from the government? Nice industry to be in if you run them.
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Old 05-25-2019, 01:55 PM
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There were two rounds of massive bailouts. Banks made all these predatory loans that were never sustainable and poor business practice, they weren't sustainable, they should of gone out of business, but instead were greatly awarded.

What other business can you pile crippling debt due to greed and get billion dollar bailouts from the government? Nice industry to be in if you run them.
And in the first two years of Trump's administration they curtailed almost every regulation that limited the scope of such actions by banks, so now it's back to Clinton and Bush levels of regulation; and the process begins again.
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Old 05-25-2019, 03:31 PM
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IMO Trump's new found love for immigration(but legal) is about keeping property prices hot. There's a real estate bubble right now. Lots of younger people aren't buying homes like they used to. And the market can't crash or we'll be launched into a major recession/depression. Trump needs to keep the economy hot or he's cooked.
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:38 PM
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Obama bankrupted Russia. Very cool Barack!
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