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Old 10-21-2022, 02:57 PM
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On April 26, 1954, the Salk polio vaccine field trials, involving 1.8 million children, begin at the Franklin Sherman Elementary School in McLean, Virginia. Children in the United States, Canada and Finland participated in the trials, which used for the first time the now-standard double-blind method, whereby neither the patient nor attending doctor knew if the inoculation was the vaccine or a placebo.

One year later, on April 12, 1955, researchers announced the vaccine was safe and effective and it quickly became a standard part of childhood immunizations in America.

You just don't want to believe that the Covid Vaccine was put in trials for 8 months and the Polio Vaccine was in trials for a year before use. And what is worse is the Polio Vaccine was then labelled for MASS use while the Covid mRNA vaccine in 8 months' time was for emergency use.
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Old 10-21-2022, 03:01 PM
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Were they very forthcoming with all of the study information in regards to polio? All we really got was 100 redacted pages. I also have a gut feeling that in 1954 there was a lot less financial influence in the industry compared to 70 years later.

The way Phizer handled their trials is very odd when you break it down entirely. Surprisingly, when you try to find information about those mistakes, it just leads you to the current "Debunked" topic of the transmission claim.

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Old 10-21-2022, 02:53 PM
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Covid is a non threat to me, so no need for the vaccine. Where is the fact checkers checking my misinformation? We have to get to the bottom of this for the science!
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Old 10-21-2022, 03:01 PM
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that was ONE YEAR after they started developing the vaccine. "Salk tested his experimental killed-virus in 1953"

One year later after those tests, another 1.6 million were tested in canada, on April 26, 1954.

A year after that the vaxine was litreally annoucned with a 2 year study period: With these words on April 12, 1955, Dr. Thomas Francis Jr., director of the Poliomyelitis Vaccine Evaluation Center at the University of Michigan School of Public Health, announced to the world that the Salk polio vaccine was up to 90% effective in preventing paralytic polio.

Dr. Francis made the announcement to a crowd of scientists and reporters at the University of Michigan's Rackham Auditorium, concluding his two-year national field trials of the poliomyelitis vaccine developed by his former student, Jonas Salk.
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You just don't want to believe that the Covid Vaccine was put in trials for 8 months and the Polio Vaccine was in trials for a year before use. And what is worse is the Polio Vaccine was then labelled for MASS use while the Covid mRNA vaccine in 8 months' time was for emergency use.
No, I dont care about anything, Im just pointing out the Poilio vaccine was under trial for 2 years.
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Old 10-21-2022, 04:47 PM
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The first successful demonstration of a polio vaccine was by Hilary Koprowski in 1950, with a live attenuated virus which people drank. The vaccine was not approved for use in the United States, but was used successfully elsewhere.
Not only that, but vaccines for polio were in development since 1950

It's silly to try to compare the two because covid was an emergency, and the first of its kind, and had 8 months of trials.

AND if your logic is, "well the polio vaccine worked, so something totally different will work no reason to question it" doesn't really show that you have a very high INT
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Old 10-21-2022, 04:55 PM
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Not only that, but vaccines for polio were in development since 1950

It's silly to try to compare the two because covid was an emergency, and the first of its kind, and had 8 months of trials.

AND if your logic is, "well the polio vaccine worked, so something totally different will work no reason to question it" doesn't really show that you have a very high INT
It is silly not to compare the two vaccines when the trial period for the polio vaccine (Not when it was developed, since other SARS like vaccines have also been made before-2004 just as in your example) and the trial period for the Covid19 mRNA vaccine were almost the same time period.

And the polio vaccine then needed several boosters.
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It is silly not to compare the two vaccines when the trial period for the polio vaccine (Not when it was developed, since other SARS like vaccines have also been made before-2004 just as in your example) and the trial period for the Covid19 mRNA vaccine were almost the same time period.

And the polio vaccine then needed several boosters.
look.

If you made a youtube video

under it would be a little disclaimer that says,

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Old 10-21-2022, 05:23 PM
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Give it up, trying to convince someone that their irreversible actions were wrong is futile.
It's like a tattoo , people will fight to justify the reason they got it instead of just admitting it was a bad decision. Once you're falling off the cliff, it's already too late for you, pulling others down usually the last resort of self validation. You should be telling others to not jump , guess misery needs company. You still have the choice , they don't and hate that fact.

What quota is ideal to quit trying to convince others ? Focus on where you relate rather than differ, it's how you make friends rather than enemies.

Just move on.
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You still have the choice, they don't and hate that fact.
Does that necessarily mean the choice was wrong?
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