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Old 03-11-2021, 02:33 PM
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Why would I believe you know better about a Chilean's perspective than actual Chileans?
Are you trying to say Chileans can only believe in one thing? Are you calling them stupid or perhaps one-track minded?
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:39 PM
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Are you trying to say Chileans can only believe in one thing? Are you calling them stupid or perhaps one-track minded?
I'm saying that you're full of shit.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:43 PM
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Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)
"Poor kids can be just as successful as white kids."

Freud must've left out a banana peel covered in dish soap for that one.

But no I think Horza is right on this one, Chileans are a lesser race of brown people who have hivemind beliefs.

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I'm saying that you're full of shit.
Full of shit? Ask the Cubans who've fled their country how they feel about leftists/marxists/communists.

Ask Russians who left the Soviet Union how they feel about empty marketplaces and coming to America to see a filled Wal-Mart.

I'd say ask a Chinese person how they feel about Communism but their answer might get them killed.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:53 PM
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But no I think Horza is right on this one, Chileans are a lesser race of brown people who have hivemind beliefs.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:37 PM
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Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:28 PM
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Oh that's their whole thing. They're superior to these poor lessers who can't figure out how to sign up for something on the internet or get a voter ID (meanwhile driver licenses aren't racist some how)
1. for constitutional legal purposes, you have a right to vote, but there is no constitutional guarantee protecting your right to drive, beyond 5th/14th amendment due process clauses, and 14th amendment equal protection clause, which require the states to adopt reasonable standards which are applied to all residents equally. States are free to set limits on driving, so long as they do not run afoul of those somewhat basic standards. The same is not true of voting, which is a specific right protected by the constitution in a number of places, as well as by the Voting Rights Act (such as it remains, in any case).

2. afaik there isn't a long history of using the law to prohibit specific groups of people from driving cars, whereas voting restrictions have a long and well documents history as part of the Jim Crow era to keep non-whites from exercising the right to vote. To that point, there is a Voting Rights Act, but but a Driving Rights Act. So, although it would not be per se racist to restrict the issuance of drivers licenses, or voter ID's, because of the history of voter suppression in the US (and, concomitantly the link between that history specifically and race) voter ID laws are immediately more suspect than laws dealing with the issuance of drivers licenses.

3. (for tentarro) you'll note that none of the Pinochet critics in this thread (such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings) are in here justifying Pol Pot's disastrous khmer rouge on the basis of "well, those people probably deserved it. just doing what needed to be done." why? because that is a crazy, nonsense, thing to think, and believing it makes you a bad person.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:39 PM
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such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings
Join date says 2017, but this comment makes me think you must be new here.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:42 PM
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Old 03-11-2021, 05:00 PM
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1. for constitutional legal purposes, you have a right to vote, but there is no constitutional guarantee protecting your right to drive, beyond 5th/14th amendment due process clauses, and 14th amendment equal protection clause, which require the states to adopt reasonable standards which are applied to all residents equally. States are free to set limits on driving, so long as they do not run afoul of those somewhat basic standards. The same is not true of voting, which is a specific right protected by the constitution in a number of places, as well as by the Voting Rights Act (such as it remains, in any case).

2. afaik there isn't a long history of using the law to prohibit specific groups of people from driving cars, whereas voting restrictions have a long and well documents history as part of the Jim Crow era to keep non-whites from exercising the right to vote. To that point, there is a Voting Rights Act, but but a Driving Rights Act. So, although it would not be per se racist to restrict the issuance of drivers licenses, or voter ID's, because of the history of voter suppression in the US (and, concomitantly the link between that history specifically and race) voter ID laws are immediately more suspect than laws dealing with the issuance of drivers licenses.

3. (for tentarro) you'll note that none of the Pinochet critics in this thread (such a controversial take, to be against mass torture and extra judicial killings) are in here justifying Pol Pot's disastrous khmer rouge on the basis of "well, those people probably deserved it. just doing what needed to be done." why? because that is a crazy, nonsense, thing to think, and believing it makes you a bad person.
Pol Pot was a communist and Pinochet likely would've done the same to him. The amount of death relating to removing Communism is a drop in the bucket compared to the extinction communists have performed.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:59 PM
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You know what sounds like a really good use of your time? Rehabilitating the image of Augusto Pinochet.
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