Rolled a mage with my wife and...

[Sithel1988]

are you the dark elf mage with the dark elf cleric or something that was in ecommons killing stuff in like the worst spot, catching aggro every 3 mins. i think i gave you some summoned weapons for your pet or something

[kinadarra]

This game has characters that are better for grouping and characters that are better at soloing. Why should anyone be punished or reviled for choosing to play a character that is quite capable of soloing? And why is it that people are getting so upset that someone would choose to play this game solo rather than group. I do not box, but I did choose to play a druid for the simple fact that I would NOT HAVE to rely on groups to play this game. I tried to help other players out when I could, I was never rude to anyone on this game, I would port, bind, etc. I did not demand payment for ports, binds, heals,etc.
I simply preferred to either play solo or with my husband. I was not ported to a magical world to jump through hoops before my account got suspended, I had turned to look at the TV while I was medding up when I got the boot. Not everyone is afforded the same opportunities when they get the boot. As for proof, does anyone here have conclusive evidence that the people you are accusing of boxing actually did or did not do it. I can provide IP codes, Mac codes, etc. all day long, but it boils down to this...If the GM that accuses you of boxing does or does not want to believe you that is your fate. In my experience there is no true way to petition, you just deal with the fate that you are handed. Now you all can sit here all day long and pass judgement on my post and you can believe what you want. But the people who have been wrongly accused of boxing know they didn't do it, just as the people that did box know they did. But don't sit here and expect those of us that did not box to confess to or apologize for something we did not do.

[SamwiseRed]

dont expect everyone to take your word for it. confirmed boxer ^

[kinadarra]

I don't expect anyone to, which should be obvious if you really read my post. And just because you insinuate in your post that I am confirmed boxer, does not make it any more true that me making insinuations about you. Pass all the judgement on me that you like, but I know who I am and how I play. If you are so sure of who is and who isn't boxing, just by reading the forums, maybe you should be a GM so that you can pass your judgement on more people. It's a lonely life for the people who "know everything" without truly knowing the people you are typing to.

[SamwiseRed]

more IP exemptions than people playing the server. i know there is a shit load of IP exemptions on red yet I've only known 2 people that actually have a significant other that plays. usually it is abused to insta-log or port/buff themselves. if you want to box there is always eqmac, why try that shit on the only server that its illegal. justice was served.

[kinadarra]

Well, I didn't try it. I'm sure there are others that do, but I would assume the people that do so are playing characters that are not able to do damage and heal themselves. I still do not understand why someone would choose to box on this game anyway. I was always able to find someone willing to help me out on the game if I asked, but I prefer to play solo. Contrary to what you believe that does not make me or anyone else a boxer. There is no rule anywhere that I've read that says that it is a requirement for me to group with others on this game. The main reason I chose a character that could solo is because I'm not an elite gamer, I'm not quick when it comes to playing in groups and I don't want others relying on my character to keep them buffed or healed if I don't believe I can do a good job of it. So if you would have preferred for me to get groups killed because I'm not good a grouping rather than playing with my husband or by myself an only getting myself killed, I will apologize for that. However, since you obviously don't play with someone in the same house, let me tell you, it is much easier to communicate with your group when your group mates are sitting in the same room and you dont have to try to type tells and cast at the same time. If that's such a crime, then IP exemption just should not be offered on this server, period...end of story. Then you will not have to worry about who is and who is not boxing.

[tanknspank]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more IP exemptions than people playing the server. i know there is a shit load of IP exemptions on red yet I've only known 2 people that actually have a significant other that plays.

How many of those are unused though? I imagine that aside from a core set of players, there's quite a lot of turnover with old EQ players stopping by for a few months for a nostalgic fix, possibly to show off the golden days of MMOs to their SO/buddy/roomie then move on.

Look, I understand the desire to keep 2+ boxing off the server, so why not have a formal set of criteria on which accounts are investigated and certain items of proof that are considered acceptable proof?

For example 2 live-streams that show the two game screens + cam of the respective players is something that should be acceptable as indisputable proof. A GM could verify the game screens are showing the characters in question and could see the players pressing the keys (or that an AFK really is an AFK and the player isn't there when the character isn't doing anything).

Hell, make the IP exemption a premium service (personally I'd pay 2x$15 in a heartbeat to play P1999 with my wife without the threat of random banning), register a streaming URL to the account and add a little app that only enables dual IP login when the stream is live. A GM could just secretly pull up the registered stream and check in on players if there's any complaints/suspicion. Easy to see if an AFK really is an AFK and if it's not can always ask the player to verify with a verbal answer on the stream.

[Treats]

If you have an IP exemption and are playing with someone else from the same IP there is a simple thing you can do to most likely never get reported for boxing:

If you have to afk log out to the character select screen.

It's highly unlikely that anyone would ever report you for boxing if you explained to the group that was what you were doing and what was happening.

I have no sympathy for anyone that gets banned for doing this.

Just one time is all it takes of swapping over and trying to play both.

It's kind of like speeding, you think you're fine one moment then the next BAM pulled over and ticket (except it's not a ticket here, it's a ban and you don't get to play anymore).

[senna]

Seems kind of a hassle. Me and my brother both play here and live together so sometimes we will group up to have some fun.

But if I had to camp every time I was afk to smoke, shit, or grab a bite to eat, I might as well not even play. Because I smoke shit and eat constantly.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have an IP exemption and are playing with someone else from the same IP there is a simple thing you can do to most likely never get reported for boxing:

If you have to afk log out to the character select screen.

It's highly unlikely that anyone would ever report you for boxing if you explained to the group that was what you were doing and what was happening.

I have no sympathy for anyone that gets banned for doing this.

Just one time is all it takes of swapping over and trying to play both.

It's kind of like speeding, you think you're fine one moment then the next BAM pulled over and ticket (except it's not a ticket here, it's a ban and you don't get to play anymore).

This is rediculious, going AFK and staying logged in is against the server rules all of a sudden?

I don't understand your analogy. Speeding is illegal no matter what reason you are doing it or where you are (where there is a posted limit). Are you going to start saying that any bard who AFK's in their group with mana/heal song playing should get banned too? I don't think the rest of the group they were in would appreciate that.