Ghaz's Plight - Page 11

Cyrano · #1 06-09-2010, 03:12 PM

In fact if you really think about it, this sigil represents the history of Norrath. If we can figure out the symbol's meanings we can discover the end of days and the release of EQ3.

This sigil comes in two parts, but there are more in the Shissar calendar which we have yet to see. I'd wager that most every significant event in EQ lore is portrayed there, ultimately it is a visual version of The Lore Bible.

First Part (EQ1):

In the center we have the creation of life on Norrath and one of the major driving storylines. Veeshan appears and creates life, Bristlebane - who had also created life in Underfoot - forms a pact with the next two gods to arrive, Tunare and Prexus, to quarantine Veeshan effectively limiting the powers of dragons so that the creations of other Gods may compete with them. Of the four outer runes we can view instances of destruction: the rune of sunder (luclin shattering), Rune of Xolous/Envar (creation of disease and the fall of the first Prime Healer), Rune of Rallos Zek (either the rise or fall of the Rallosian Army), and the X Rune (at this point presumably the end of the Shissar or of Days - via the Greenmist or something we don't know of).

Now two of the main story arcs in EQ are Dragons vs everyone and Dragons vs Dragons. We know that Kerafyrm was created by the mating of a Fire (red) and Ice (blue) dragon. What do Nagafen and Vox want more than anything? To consumate their love. What does the Circle of Veeshan forbid them from doing? Just that. Their goal is to create a second prismatic dragon and free themselves from the overbearing rule of Veeshan (read the prophecy of Kildrukuan).

In the mirror (EQ2) where do we see something similar? Oh yes, the introduction of Antonia (blue) and Lucan (red). The swords Claymore (blue) and Soulfire (red) which, as Qae pointed out, are representations of the hands of The Nameless. Who was the nameless? The creator of all. Aside from Gods who did he create? Theer. Who is Theer? The God Slayer. What did Theer have in possession? The hands of The Nameless. Who now holds these? Antonia and Lucan. Who holds the fate of the world? Mortals.

Now let's get to the second Sigil (blue):

In the center we now have was looks like arrows pointing in the cardinal directions but is is also the Ankh which is brandished on Mayong's face. Mayong is the second mortal to ascend to godhood, the first being Zebuxoruk. Who does Mayong hate? Dragons. To the left of this we see the Symbol of the Marrs which has been appropriated by Qeynos effectively representing Antonia (blue) and to the right we have the symbol of Lucan. Currently I do not know where he appropriated it. The north rune is that of a dragon ascending, this could mean many things but most likely is either the awakening of a sleeper or the arrival of Veeshan. Keep in mind that Kerafyrm might not be the first prismatic dragon and he certainly won't be the last, with that position at 12 there is a good chance this is a repeating history. Moving on, at 3 we have the rune of the void. Why is this important? All over norrath we have the sigil which Miragul used as a teleport between worlds and planes, near it is often firepots which are also use for world teleportation. In the EQ2 timeline (which was created when the timeline was ripped in PoP), we have the new Sigil. We have characters actively traveling between the void and we have shadowmen in both timelines meaning the void was certainly open in our Norrath. The opening of the void is most certainly what this represents, but to take it EVEN FURTHER we know that who returned to norrath in EQ2 through the void? Anatsi'Sul. Who was she? The first prime healer. Why was she banished? For creating disease (subsequently Bertoxx). What did she bring to EQ2? The Prophecy of Theer and the second Sigil. What else? Claymore and Soulfire.

New paragraph for your safety! Now at 6 we have the symbol of the combine. This still remains a mystery - was it only of the combine or was it appropriate? Have we seen this anywhere else? If it is simply the Combine, this could represent the ascension man and ultimately the mortal beings beginning the road towards power that rivals the Gods (this ends in PoP). At 9 we have the symbol of the Ratonga. I have yet to research this much however I believe these were the first beings created by Bristlebane due to the lore and history of what he was secretly doing in Underfoot when the pact against Veeshan was created.

So those of you stuck on this belonging to the Dark Elves need to take a step back and look at it in the entire scope of history. This symbol pops up in every EQ game out there, it's larger then just one race, era, or even timeline. It is the symbol that binds Norrath together and will eventually lead to it's demise. However at the time of total despair what are we to do? Look to the Alabaster Tower. Who is the God of Knowledge? Easy, that's the first human to ascend to Godhood; Zebuxoruk. Who were we helping recreate time in PoP? That's right, Zeb.

I think of the calendar as this. Rather than a clock or an actual calendar, it is a target with Norrath at the center and prophesied events hurling at it. Once all of them have occurred, the final struggle will begin and it's a multi-layered one. Dragons vs Dragons (Naggy,Vox, and Prismatic_Dragon_01/02/03 vs Veeshan et. al). Man vs Dragons (Mayong). Man vs Gods(Us). Gods vs Dragons. Read the prophecy, choose your Ew and this you shall know. All this is real.

rioisk · #2 06-09-2010, 03:16 PM

How is this related to the release of the plane of sky......i'm sure we're all wondering that....

Qaedain · #3 06-09-2010, 03:19 PM

Cyrano, can you offer a picture of the Bertoxxulesian symbols? I don't follow your logical leap of the Xulous.

Also, get on IRC.

Leokaiser · #4 06-09-2010, 03:25 PM

What has my curiosity piqued is, with all these EQ veterans running around and putting so much effort into this yet finding no obviously conclusive answers, how Mixxit can know with certainty what it all means - assuming he indeed does!

Phallax · #5 06-09-2010, 04:51 PM

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What has my curiosity piqued is, with all these EQ veterans running around and putting so much effort into this yet finding no obviously conclusive answers, how Mixxit can know with certainty what it all means - assuming he indeed does!

I dont think anyone truly knows the full meaning to all of it other than its the "Doomsday Calendar" created by the shissar. I think what Mixxit may be looking for is what the next step p99 as a sever is about to reach. And I believe its the 9 o'clock position With Sky > Hole > Kunark being released soon.

rioisk · #6 06-09-2010, 03:31 PM

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ruins in seafury island in OOT. This is the same symbol as the ruins outside mistmoore.

edit - my mistake what I meant to ask is why some druid rings work and others don't

Ghaz · #7 06-09-2010, 03:53 PM

This is the exact location where we encountered Al'kabor and received Miragul;s phylactery. Note the symbol on the stones littered throughout Miragul's caves.

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The symbol also looks like a crescent moon on it's side.

Qaedain · #8 06-09-2010, 04:22 PM

Updated pictogram:

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Akame · #9 06-09-2010, 04:38 PM

This is an amazing thread, and I always thought I was good in EQ lore, turns out I'm just a newb! lol, But commenting on what little I do know atm (some of these quotes are from several pages back sorry!

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Now the question I'd be most concerned with is why the DEF's have this symbol? Most DEF's follow Innoruuk. Innoruuk's symbol is clearly outside of the center. It would make sense to find this, Circle of Protection in the cities of the cities of the people Inside the Circle. I guess this is yet another Oops on Veriant ??? No respecting DEF would want to empower "lessor," gods in their cities.

Remember, DEF's didn't start out as dark elves, they were created when Innoruuk "perfected" them by torturing the elven king and queen for a thousand years. Plus, every one of the deities talked about can be represented by dark elves.

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I don't feel comfortable with lumping Rallos Zek in the evil gods category. He's not exactly neutral, but you can certainly worship him and still not be KoS to most.

Correct, Rallos would closely resemble Chaotic Neutral. He is the god of War, nothing matters but war, peace is his enemy, and to die in battle is the only way to go, good or evil would have no meaning to a follower of Zek, only whatever cause suited best the purpose of creating war.

Ok back to the topic at hand, has anyone checked the images that are in the cliffs leading up to highkeep? I haven't seen them myself for 10 years but I always remember those being breathtaking, maybe some of your symbols are repeated there.

Qaedain · #10 06-09-2010, 04:46 PM

I'm going to go ahead and agree with Cyrano's impression that the symbol isn't so much a chronological dial, but a chronicling of events that all lead up to an ultimate event. The appearance of three categories of symbols at the center is significant:

1. Veeshan's emblem represents her continued literal influence, as well as a symbol for all dragonkind. Set beneath a northward arrow, we can say that dragons are in ascension.

2. Mayong Mistmoore is the second mortal to ascend to godhood following Zebuxoruk, and he did so by killing Ayonae Ro and converting her plane into the Theatre of Blood. He absolutely detests dragons.

3. The appearance of Aeteok and Enoxus--represented by Lucan and Antonia, respectively--indicates either that humanity will be a driving force in the end days, or the Sleeper will be a driving force, as I understand he absorbed both swords.

All three of these powers will be in contention for the ultimate fate of Norrath,

When we look back to consider the Chelsith stone, we see the Norrath of EQII being merged with various events, set upon a stone inscribed with symbols that foretold events in both the EQII timeline of Norrath and the EQI timeline of norrath. These symbols merging with Norrath can be found on Druid stones throughout EQII.

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