So that's it for the election.

[mgellan]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it makes it pretty hard to guage the religiosity of smart people until the 1800s.

And oh by the way it doesn't fucking matter anyways, an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy that proves nothing.

Regards,
Mg

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by mgellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He obviously got better, went to school, got a degree in Psychology, and started making perfect sense. Amazing how education destroys religiousity.

No, he didn't get better, and education doesn't "destroy" religiosity. Plenty of people as educated or more educated than Shermer are still religious.

He was an unbearable zealot that tried to force his religion down other peoples' throats, then he grew disillusioned and became an unbearable zealot that tried to force his anti-religion down other peoples' throats. The common theme is that he's an unbearable zealot. He's not some enlightened genius leading the unwashed masses to rationality. He was once just as fervent for religion as he is now fervent against religion.

Also, lulz at a degree in Psychology. A master's degree in experimental psych takes one year to complete. He completed a shitty master's program at a shitty state school.

[Lucky]

He said he didn't believe in a personal God. That is buddy Jesus, not a grand architect.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by Lucky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He said he didn't believe in a personal God. That is buddy Jesus, not a grand architect.

I will concede there are many of Einstein's quotes that deal with the idea of "a grand architect." e.g. "I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details." But he would go back and forth in the terms of there being a higher power and would refer to such things in a very ambiguous manner. He mostly related to agnosticism and being such, he was a clear opponent to positive atheism which I believe is the main point of bring Franklin and Einstein into this little quarrel.

I digress, Einstein was most certainly an agnostic.

"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being." -Dat big E.

[kenzar]

Appeal to authority all up in hurr.

[Saskrotch]

Figures most of you are Obama supporters. Not that supporting Mitt is any better.

Oh Gary Johnson, why can't they let you debate?

[stonez138]

A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'Universe'; a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest--a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compasion to embrace all living creatures and the whole nature in its beauty. Nobody is able to achieve this completely but striving for such achievement is, in itself, a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security.
-Albert Einstein

Sounds like he was a buddhist.

[Boilon]

what happened to separation of state and church? Does that really happen in America anymore? I like how Romney pulled the God card near the end of the 2nd debate, priceless... A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR GOD!

Americans are in trouble lawl

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened to separation of state and church? Does that really happen in America anymore? I like how Romney pulled the God card near the end of the 2nd debate, priceless... A VOTE FOR ME IS A VOTE FOR GOD!

Americans are in trouble lawl

Good thing no one asked him which planet "God" came from or how many other "Gods" there are. Or even how the "God" of our planet came to be.

I found it interesting that he sates the uninformed Christian right with "We're all children of the same God," but hasn't been called out on the Mormon view of "God"...which denies one of the central doctrines of Christianity: the belief that there is only one "God".

[Arclyte]

I'm voting for romney because he's white