Game Mechanics: Mellee miss rate seems excessively high.

[Morndenkainen]

Once again President, your right, I played since EQ was released up until the first expansion then quit. In 1999, I dont remember there being some magical "Hump" that you had to cross in order to suddenly do better at everything, It didnt work that way with any of the crafting skills like tailoring, brewing, fletching, blacksmithing, jewlcrafting, or accesory skills like sense heading and bind wounds. It didnt work that way with the caster skillset with regards to evocation, alteration, conjuration, abjuration, channeling, or meditate, Im fairly sure it didnt work that way witht he language skills, and I sure as hell dont remember it working that way in combat either. EQ was all about slow, steady progression.

A note on being braindead since you decided to be nasty again... If I managed to solo to 23 as a warrior and you didnt, that speaks volumes about your intelligence and competence as a gamer.. No wonder why you cant understand the concept behind this thread, but continue posting away, might as well make it the biggest one on the forum. And yeah, it does actually prove a point, on your own words, it states that there's a "hump" in the skills, at which point they suddenly become alot more effective. If the same holds true for the melee miss rate, then guess what, thats the problem with the excessive miss rates early on, there isnt enough trickle down effect to smooth out that hump and make the progression gradual and consistent, like it should be.

Face it, you didnt see this message one day, thus crossing the mystical hump and turning into the person you are today. It took time, dedication, and gradual progress.
President has ganed skill in ignorance (101)

All the silence of the devs says is that their either busy, or have tossed the thread out of serious consideration thanks to the lack of brainpower in a couple of idiots who started trolling here instead of giving the thread serious consideration. Either way, keep on posting, im going to laugh when this supposed non-issue becomes the biggest and most viewed thread on here.

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again President, your right, I played since EQ was released up until the first expansion then quit. In 1999, I dont remember there being some magical "Hump" that you had to cross in order to suddenly do better at everything, It didnt work that way with any of the crafting skills like tailoring, brewing, fletching, blacksmithing, jewlcrafting, or accesory skills like sense heading and bind wounds. It didnt work that way with the caster skillset with regards to evocation, alteration, conjuration, abjuration, channeling, or meditate, Im fairly sure it didnt work that way witht he language skills, and I sure as hell dont remember it working that way in combat either. EQ was all about slow, steady progression.

You must have been a developer then right? Or wait, nope. You weren't. Your just some noob crying about missing 35% of the time.

A note on being braindead since you decided to be nasty again... If I managed to solo to 23 as a warrior and you didnt, that speaks volumes about your intelligence and competence as a gamer.. No wonder why you cant understand the concept behind this thread, but continue posting away, might as well make it the biggest one on the forum. And yeah, it does actually prove a point, on your own words, it states that there's a "hump" in the skills, at which point they suddenly become alot more effective. If the same holds true for the melee miss rate, then guess what, thats the problem with the excessive miss rates early on, there isnt enough trickle down effect to smooth out that hump and make the progression gradual and consistent, like it should be.

Face it, you didnt see this message one day, thus crossing the mystical hump and turning into the person you are today. It took time, dedication, and gradual progress.
President has ganed skill in ignorance (101)

All of this is laughable at VERY best. Anyone who reads this thread know you were the first person to start throwing around insults and being a crybaby jackass. The fact you solo'd to 23 proves you are fucking retarded and nothing more because nobody with a brain would have done that in classic. It has nothing to do with skill. The fact you even think that pressing auto attack and hitting kick every few seconds is "skill" shows just how retarded you are.

All the silence of the devs says is that their either busy, or have tossed the thread out of serious consideration thanks to the lack of brainpower in a couple of idiots who started trolling here instead of giving the thread serious consideration. Either way, keep on posting, im going to laugh when this supposed non-issue becomes the biggest and most viewed thread on here.

Us *idiots* were providing our thoughts on the situation until you started calling everyone "stupid" for not "understanding your point of view." Even in the face of multiple people telling you are wrong and this is very similar to live, you continue to do the same thing over and over. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

Keep your posts coming, I'm staying entertained during my shift.

[President]

Bahaha, check the 5 month old thread you just bumped. DEV RESPONSE! Can you quit QQing now?

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bahaha, check the 5 month old thread you just bumped. DEV RESPONSE! Can you quit QQing now?

Proof to the theory that they avoid threads with excessive levels of bullshit.. Thanks for helping to ruin this one...

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proof to the theory that they avoid threads with excessive levels of bullshit.. Thanks for helping to ruin this one...

LOL, not at all. He answered someone asking a level headed question, not the retarded shit you have been posting.

[Yoite]

meep

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by Yoite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holy JESUS dont turn the bug forum into a flame fest you have multiple threads and you're raising hell in each one

Wasnt my intention. I asked a legit question in the other one, and yet these guys followed me there and flamed because they've apparently got nothing better to do. Quite honestly, I wish there was a way to just block em from the thread and call it a day.

[President]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasnt my intention. I asked a legit question in the other one, and yet these guys followed me there and flamed because they've apparently got nothing better to do. Quite honestly, I wish there was a way to just block em from the thread and call it a day.

No one flamed you in the other thread aside from me finding it interesting that you constantly insult my intelligence but then use one of my posts and call it fact.

[Morndenkainen]

Originally Posted by President [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one flamed you in the other thread aside from me finding it interesting that you constantly insult my intelligence but then use one of my posts and call it fact.

If you cant figgure out why I'd do such a thing, then I'll explain it, if you still dont get it, dont bother to respond..

I used your "facts" from your level 19-20 days because they came out of YOUR personal experience, and YOU are the one that stated that it happened. EQ was not meant to have huge "humps" in skill progression, it was a slow steady progression game. I used your "facts" because in order to dispute them, you would have to say you were wrong, which you did not do. Also, I never called them "facts", you did. What I said was that your post helped to validate and prove my point. That there IS an issue with melee skills.

As far as who insulted who first? Read the damn posts. Its pretty obvious you started it. Hell, you even went out of your way to kill a sand giant and post pics in the thread to show that you DIDNT miss once which realistically, if the system was correct, you should have, ATLEAST once. At every turn, you continue to offer points which reinforce the thought that there still IS an issue with melee, and then turn around and deny its an issue.. You then insult me and tell me im wrong and expect me not to respond after you went out of your way to help prove me right? How does that NOT say anything about your intelligence?

You know what President? Fuck it, you win, enjoy ownership of the thread. I'll just grind off to 21 where the misses mysteriously vanish or give a druid some plat for some powerleveling, and let everyone else deal with the massive miss rate. You arent worth arguing with.

[Desert]

Originally Posted by Morndenkainen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you cant figgure out why I'd do such a thing, then I'll explain it, if you still dont get it, dont bother to respond..

I used your "facts" from your level 19-20 days because they came out of YOUR personal experience, and YOU are the one that stated that it happened. EQ was not meant to have huge "humps" in skill progression, it was a slow steady progression game. I used your "facts" because in order to dispute them, you would have to say you were wrong, which you did not do. Also, I never called them "facts", you did. What I said was that your post helped to validate and prove my point. That there IS an issue with melee skills.

As far as who insulted who first? Read the damn posts. Its pretty obvious you started it. Hell, you even went out of your way to kill a sand giant and post pics in the thread to show that you DIDNT miss once which realistically, if the system was correct, you should have, ATLEAST once. At every turn, you continue to offer points which reinforce the thought that there still IS an issue with melee, and then turn around and deny its an issue.. You then insult me and tell me im wrong and expect me not to respond after you went out of your way to help prove me right? How does that NOT say anything about your intelligence?

You know what President? Fuck it, you win, enjoy ownership of the thread. I'll just grind off to 21 where the misses mysteriously vanish or give a druid some plat for some powerleveling, and let everyone else deal with the massive miss rate. You arent worth arguing with.

Prolly the best idea you're going to have all year bro, do it imo.