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Old 06-28-2012, 01:15 AM
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Reason for a new server that has rotation:

1) Red server is dead replace it.

2) TMO refuses to let any progress. Considering they have every attention to destory and push any guild off server that goes after any new content or tries to compete. This happened with multiple guilds. Hopefully BDA isn't the new target but is seeming that way after they went after a few mobs.

3) Population on the server starting friday will most likely drop back down. So you could figure about 300+ people that only play when TMO can't raid would move over. That is a good junk for a server to start on.

4) Considering 90% of the server is willing to share mobs it would work. Look at the past 2 weeks on the server went well and bet GMs have been bored. Which means would need less gms then current server.

Basically let TMO have their FFA server and do another with rotation. Once they push every last person off the current server they will be crying to move over. The server has been peaceful and fun for tons of people over 2 weeks. All i have heard is how people are dreading TMO coming back. So i think doing a player transfer to a new blue with forced rotation would be great for the P99 community. They don't want it to happen cause would prove that they way they act towards all other guilds is the problem for the slow death of server. So i pray it happens or TMO decides to play nice and do rotation so all guilds can have a chance at pixels they never get to really see.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:29 AM
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Reason for a new server that has rotation:

1) Red server is dead replace it.

2) TMO refuses to let any progress. Considering they have every attention to destory and push any guild off server that goes after any new content or tries to compete. This happened with multiple guilds. Hopefully BDA isn't the new target but is seeming that way after they went after a few mobs.

3) Population on the server starting friday will most likely drop back down. So you could figure about 300+ people that only play when TMO can't raid would move over. That is a good junk for a server to start on.

4) Considering 90% of the server is willing to share mobs it would work. Look at the past 2 weeks on the server went well and bet GMs have been bored. Which means would need less gms then current server.

Basically let TMO have their FFA server and do another with rotation. Once they push every last person off the current server they will be crying to move over. The server has been peaceful and fun for tons of people over 2 weeks. All i have heard is how people are dreading TMO coming back. So i think doing a player transfer to a new blue with forced rotation would be great for the P99 community. They don't want it to happen cause would prove that they way they act towards all other guilds is the problem for the slow death of server. So i pray it happens or TMO decides to play nice and do rotation so all guilds can have a chance at pixels they never get to really see.
TMO is not going to do a rotation. Also "people are dreading TMO coming back." hahahahahhahahaha
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:32 AM
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:34 AM
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:35 AM
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Reason for a new server that has rotation:

1) Red server is dead replace it.

2) TMO refuses to let any progress. Considering they have every attention to destory and push any guild off server that goes after any new content or tries to compete. This happened with multiple guilds. Hopefully BDA isn't the new target but is seeming that way after they went after a few mobs.

3) Population on the server starting friday will most likely drop back down. So you could figure about 300+ people that only play when TMO can't raid would move over. That is a good junk for a server to start on.

4) Considering 90% of the server is willing to share mobs it would work. Look at the past 2 weeks on the server went well and bet GMs have been bored. Which means would need less gms then current server.

Basically let TMO have their FFA server and do another with rotation. Once they push every last person off the current server they will be crying to move over. The server has been peaceful and fun for tons of people over 2 weeks. All i have heard is how people are dreading TMO coming back. So i think doing a player transfer to a new blue with forced rotation would be great for the P99 community. They don't want it to happen cause would prove that they way they act towards all other guilds is the problem for the slow death of server. So i pray it happens or TMO decides to play nice and do rotation so all guilds can have a chance at pixels they never get to really see.
It's indisputable that the server as a whole would be better off without TMO. Their recent raid suspension only serves as evidence of this fact. Too bad the GMs/Devs haven't done anything to address the problems of the raid scene and are unlikely to do anything in the near future. Prediction? TMO returns and everything goes back to shit and we get more threads about how TMO ruins everything - ad infinitum.

Easy fix. Ignore cries about fragmenting population - population would ultimately be healthier with a casual-only server as demonstrated by rise in population numbers since TMO's suspension. Get rid of P1999 Red - it's a fail server with only 1 guild and no PvP - what's the point of that server again?

Of course none of this will ever happen but it's nevertheless enjoyable to beat the dead horse past the point of a bloody pulp.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:34 AM
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And this leads us to the final point: Currently the raid rules on the server favor Group B 100%. A group of players who batphone/poopsock/track/train etc can totally deny Group A from seeing any content or getting any items at all. So all these proposals are simply Group A trying to change the raid rules. A fixed rotation obviously is a set of raid rules that 100% favor group A. The willingness of TMO players to play 4x as much per day is irrelevant, and they get exactly the same gear. And this is why you guys are all raging at the thought of a rotation.
^This. I continue to not understand why the minority rules here. On some...MOST servers, guilds agreed for a rotation. The difference here is that TMO will never agree to anything. In the spirit of classic we should have a rotation, GM imposed or not.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:03 AM
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why wouldn't guilds split and make smaller guilds to gear faster with force rotation. That is exactly what would happen.

Why sit in a guild and wait behind 50 people when you can split into another guild with 15 others and not have to wait behind those people.

Take the amount of guilds capable on p99 and then triple it. That would be a general idea of how many guilds would end up being on a rotation.

Dumbest idea ever.
My feeling is only TMO would go to these lengths.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:16 AM
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can I get more of those sexy pixle pics please- I am almost finished.


as for TMO being the bane of the server- lulz you people chose the stupidest angel to attack TMO on- but rule lawyering has failed vs DA and TMO- so the "IB"-pr machine shall attach from a different angel- putting the hitler and blaming us TMO for the server's problems and purring us in raid suspension camps saying SEE SEE its better!
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:32 AM
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It's indisputable that the server as a whole would be better off without TMO. Their recent raid suspension only serves as evidence of this fact. Too bad the GMs/Devs haven't done anything to address the problems of the raid scene and are unlikely to do anything in the near future. Prediction? TMO returns and everything goes back to shit and we get more threads about how TMO ruins everything - ad infinitum.

Easy fix. Ignore cries about fragmenting population - population would ultimately be healthier with a casual-only server as demonstrated by rise in population numbers since TMO's suspension. Get rid of P1999 Red - it's a fail server with only 1 guild and no PvP - what's the point of that server again?

Of course none of this will ever happen but it's nevertheless enjoyable to beat the dead horse past the point of a bloody pulp.

This guy played on the server for like 3 weeks, and all he did from level 1-51 was troll TMO. If you are taking his post as well thought out and benevolent you are seriously misguided
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:11 AM
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It's indisputable that the server as a whole would be better off without TMO. Their recent raid suspension only serves as evidence of this fact. Too bad the GMs/Devs haven't done anything to address the problems of the raid scene and are unlikely to do anything in the near future. Prediction? TMO returns and everything goes back to shit and we get more threads about how TMO ruins everything - ad infinitum.

Easy fix. Ignore cries about fragmenting population - population would ultimately be healthier with a casual-only server as demonstrated by rise in population numbers since TMO's suspension. Get rid of P1999 Red - it's a fail server with only 1 guild and no PvP - what's the point of that server again?

Of course none of this will ever happen but it's nevertheless enjoyable to beat the dead horse past the point of a bloody pulp.
After reading several of your posts it seems like you just like to make claims based on nothing more than your opinions. Sever population has gone up slightly and is easily accounted for by new people to the server (not yet raiders), IB logging into the server, people on suspension spending more time in the game on alts, and maybe a handful of people logging on for open raids. Even if all of the change in population was due to the suspension it wouldn't help the anti-TMO argument much because the difference is pretty miniscule. Numbers really don't look very different from two weeks ago, maybe a 4-5% difference. Not like the post Kunark numbers which were several hundred more.
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