Staff - Players - TMO, a Treatise on the Future of the Server - Page 11

radditsu · #1 06-26-2012, 01:17 AM

On live we had contested kills that happened all the time, for non rotation stuff. Guides decided who got what. The original reason that the variance was put in to change this from happening. Now there are new and bigger problems. Non classic solution causes something non classic to fix the non classic problem due to not having the infrastructure and manpower to do it as classic. /Xibit off

Only solution is to either go back to fully classic (with repops, cause they are classic). Either make it the wild wild west, or try some more non classic fixes.

Yay

Versus · #2 06-26-2012, 08:46 AM

u bda guyz r so friendly.

Susanbanthony · #3 06-26-2012, 09:11 AM

The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Competition can exist between players and is healthy, but why can't the "competition" stop at "Shit, they've beaten us to the zone with a capable raid force and are clearly moving toward the target. I hope they wipe, so we can have a shot. If not, cong them." Stop being assholes.

Autotune · #4 06-26-2012, 09:16 AM

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The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Competition can exist between players and is healthy, but why can't the "competition" stop at "Shit, they've beaten us to the zone with a capable raid force and are clearly moving toward the target. I hope they wipe, so we can have a shot. If not, cong them." Stop being assholes.

"we showed up and deserve our trophy" - I love that mentality.

Susanbanthony · #5 06-26-2012, 09:23 AM

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"we showed up and deserve our trophy" - I love that mentality.

Yep. We showed up, stood there and the dragon said, "Screw it, here's your loot." We didn't have to do a thing.

Autotune · #6 06-26-2012, 09:27 AM

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Yep. We showed up, stood there and the dragon said, "Screw it, here's your loot." We didn't have to do a thing.

pretty much.

radditsu · #7 06-26-2012, 09:42 AM

I guess the minimal raid force with minimal amount of key classes that is essentially a glorified pickup raid who have not raided together before killing raid mobs in a zone that no longer gives the ability to hide from significant area of effect damage is "screw it , here's your loot".

I guess we have to be trained by another guild for it to count as a challenge. In that case TMO has not had a challenge in months. Why don't you go up to vp after the ban and have you guys train each other all day.

Alarti0001 · #8 06-26-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Competition can exist between players and is healthy, but why can't the "competition" stop at "Shit, they've beaten us to the zone with a capable raid force and are clearly moving toward the target. I hope they wipe, so we can have a shot. If not, cong them." Stop being assholes.

That seems a bit bent on opinion...who is to say what is a capable raid force, and TMO would always show up with a more capable raid force.

Versus · #9 06-26-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Susanbanthony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The BDA/IB/Divinity/Black Hand/Whoever can come PUG VP raids have been the most classic raiding experience I've had since I've joined P99 (though old school fear/hate clears come close). And, oddly enough, the most fun. Believe it or not, it's been fun without another group of players in VP "competing" with us. Know why? We're competing against the dragons. We sometimes fail, we sometimes succeed, but we are always learning. That is what Everquest is about. Not the bullshit this server was turned into long ago with poopsocking, FTE, rules lawyering, etc (and that TMO continues to perpetuate).

Good on you guys. I'm glad you had fun. Problem is, in two days, the amount of VP keyed people able to raid in VP is going to more than double. Once that happens, there's no room for PUG /randoming. There will be too many mouths to feed and not enough dragons, whereas now, there's a nice utopian amount of people able to raid there.

Susanbanthony · #10 06-26-2012, 10:44 AM

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Good on you guys. I'm glad you had fun. Problem is, in two days, the amount of VP keyed people able to raid in VP is going to more than double. Once that happens, there's no room for PUG /randoming. There will be too many mouths to feed and not enough dragons, whereas now, there's a nice utopian amount of people able to raid there.

Of course there is room for PUG/randoming, if the server playerbase agrees and adheres to it. It's been happening for the past two weeks outside of VP.