Polite dialouge on future of red99

[bilbobaggins]

the players asking for more content do not care about the server population. they will continue to play even if the server is just them, farming uncontested pixels for fun. they want kunark because they have exhausted classic content and have run out of gear to farm (there is only one guild on the server that is at this point).

the players asking for an exp bump want to play on the server but either dont want to re-live the ridiculous grind again, or they don't have the time for the grind.

the devs? i don't know what they care about at this point. either their vision of the server is so set in stone that they will change nothing at the request of the majority of the playerbase and will watch the population slowly dwindle to nothing. or they will compromise on the asks of the playerbase for the good of the longevity of the server.

i also do not really understand why people are going about this as an either/or. can't we have more content and faster exp? the only people against this are dullah and trollborn and the only logical explaination is that they do not want others to get to 50.

[Dullah]

Yes, pretend your silly suggestions haven't been rebutted and refuted into the ground

No one is against other 50s, we are however against unclassic additions to the game.

However, I think everyone would like to see some exp bonus days for newer players, but to pretend that kunark wouldn't be more beneficial than exp for the hundreds of inactive players that already leveled to 50 and competed over classic for the last 7 months is asinine.

[bilbobaggins]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, pretend your silly suggestions haven't been rebutted and refuted into the ground

No one is against other 50s, we are however against unclassic additions to the game.

However, I think everyone would like to see some exp bonus days for newer players, but to pretend that kunark wouldn't be more beneficial than exp for the hundreds of inactive players that already leveled to 50 and competed over classic for the last 7 months is asinine.

still awaiting an explaination on how an exp boost ruins the 'classic' feel of r99... when it already has an exp boost. lol.

and honestly i can't wait for the day kunark comes out so i can watch the "hundreds of inactive players" come back. saving this post for later.

[Tr0llb0rn]

Originally Posted by bilbobaggins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the devs? i don't know what they care about at this point. either their vision of the server is so set in stone

Nilbog has already posted multiple times that this is his hobby, recreating a true to form 1999 classic EQ EMU. He basically said in so many words that if you do not like it, GTFO.

The devs are doing this as a project for themselves, hobby wise. If others would like to play on it and enjoy it too fine. This is not about "what will bring hundreds here" this is about creating a museum if you will that you may or may not enjoy.

Look the posts up yourself. I think you have the devs here confused with blizzard.

This is not about making xp easier cause its too hard for todays gamer, this is not about making rare drops , drop more because todays gamer has too "much of a life to camp stuff", this is not about making all NPC's have ally faction with all players because "grinding faction was only posibile when I was 13 and in jr. high".

This is about recreateing 1999 style classic EQ. You can log in and enjoy their work, or you can GTFO.

Devnoob has a server up whos main concern is catering to fighting one another with swords and ice commets though I hear. Perhaps you should check it out if a project whos goal is to recreate classic EQ is not for you........................................

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by bilbobaggins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still awaiting an explaination on how an exp boost ruins the 'classic' feel of r99... when it already has an exp boost. lol.

and honestly i can't wait for the day kunark comes out so i can watch the "hundreds of inactive players" come back. saving this post for later.

Its already been posted a dozen times in the last few days alone.

Originally Posted by Tr0llb0rn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is already a compromise xp bonus in place on the server to help people get to the higher levels and it starts at 100 percent. There is NO need for more of this and it would hurt the integrity of the server to make it higher.

What people need to get through their head is that the game does not START at max level like every other ezmode game out there today. EQ is about lvl 10, its about lvl 19, its about level 37, its about lvl 45 and everything in between. Thats the draw, that what is unique. More xp bonus would hurt the whole system from the ground up.

The problem is, too many people here, are here for counterstrike-with-elves and NOT for classic EQ. Classic EQ is about the slow growth and achievement of your character.

I see noobs leveling up everyday in game. lowbie groups filling group slots, etc. EQ takes some player inititive, its not for the lazy. But that makes the end reward all the sweeter.

There is one thing and one thing ONLY that the server needs at this point, and thats kunark. Kunark along with some good word of mouth and advertiseing in the month or two weeks leading up to it. Period.

The Rogean issue... I think many people have hinted about this now here and there. For some reason he is in charge of patches. Everyone wants patches more frequently but that takes Rogean doing something to make that happen. Is there anyway we can give that responsibility to Nilbog? And while we are at it, lets ask the blue server if they'd please take Rogean and let us have Nilbog as the dev in "charge" of our server.

Red needs the attention more at this point, and Nilbog is a lot more hands on and active. This probly needs its own thread and a thread in the blue section,begging them to let us have Nilbog in exchange for Rogean.

Nilbog...... PLEASE give blue99 to Rogean. Tell him how many more players blue has and how more "glorious" it would be to be in charge of that. You come here and be in charge of us [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[PhantomRogue]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, pretend your silly suggestions haven't been rebutted and refuted into the ground

No one is against other 50s, we are however against unclassic additions to the game.

However, I think everyone would like to see some exp bonus days for newer players, but to pretend that kunark wouldn't be more beneficial than exp for the hundreds of inactive players that already leveled to 50 and competed over classic for the last 7 months is asinine.

And your "content" suggestion has failed worse than the EXP boost that is already in place.

You ask for content, people come back. We ask for EXP people come back. But no matter what, people will still quit logging in. WoW dies off between content patches. EQ dies off in between content patches. But you know what doesn't? The accelerated leveling experience. WoW has it. EQ has it. This server is NOT classic. Its classic feel. What is the huge problem with boosting EXP in a hot zone that's on a rotation? Are you afraid that if more people get to 50 you will have to compete over that Dragon kill?

I just don't understand the insane desire to not boost EXP. I thought the point of PvP was to brag about wrecking someones face? Not "OMG we killed Innoruk!" Or "The Spiroc Lord just got smoked!"

And PvP requires people. More people will come and stay if its easier (not EASY, but EASIER), to get up to the proper level of competition.

Just give me one good reason why a EXP boost is detrimental. And "kunark will bring more people" is not a valid response. Its irrelevant and has no bearing on why EXP boost is a bad thing.

[PhantomRogue]

What people need to get through their head is that the game does not START at max level like every other ezmode game out there today. EQ is about lvl 10, its about lvl 19, its about level 37, its about lvl 45 and everything in between. Thats the draw, that what is unique. More xp bonus would hurt the whole system from the ground up.

Troolborn,

If that's the case, why don't developers keep adding content for level 30s? Why is all content about max level? Why aren't resists balanced for level 35 with 50MR instead of level 50 with 110 MR?

You have yet to say WHY it would hurt. What is the most popular zone? LGuk... not Befallen. Its SolB not High Keep.

The game is not about the 500 hours you need to spend to get to level 50. Its about what you do with the 1,000 hours you spend AT level 50. The more people you entice to get there, the better off the survivability of the game is. You need to keep having new blood arrive, or it stagnates.

[heartbrand]

Amazing posts above a++

[Vile]

a few people get it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lazortag]

Wow, you guys really can't keep your hands out of the cookie jar can you? This thread is supposed to be a "polite dialogue" yet it's turned into an angry circle jerk. Who would honestly want to read 12 pages of this shit?