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Old 04-07-2012, 01:53 PM
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pvp exp loss is so small its not a factor unless u /durrr afk and come back 50 kills later...

But thats a different problem, not a pvp exp loss problem.
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:39 PM
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pvp exp loss is so small its not a factor unless u /durrr afk and come back 50 kills later...

But thats a different problem, not a pvp exp loss problem.
I have a really hard time understanding why people dont link pvp xp death with the horrible grind.

If people already have a hard time leveling on a low pop server, why let twinks run around to make people eat xp death? If the horrible solo grind is bad enough as it is, why make it worse? If you say that new players have a chance against decked out twinks, gtfo of here. They might win once in a while, but wont happen often.

I think theres 2 camps that are pushing for xp loss in pvp:

The "I want to hold pve spots camp easily through sheer numbers" camp

The "i want to delevel people outta the server lulz" camp

If there was only a timer (low health no mana on death) on xp death instead of xp loss, i guarantee you that Nihilum would not hold Fear all nite like they do.

I am currently in Nihilum, and i would want people come and challenge raid content. But they dont. Because of xp loss. Thats the ONLY reason Nihilum is not getting challenged in raid content.

Without xp loss, I can easily see people fighting all nite in fear, with 3-4 guilds staying there dukin it out for hours. You know, like on a pvp server.

INB4 the lulzdeleveluoutofserver xplossinsignificant people call me a bluebie and then cue crying about zerging because if they try anything more than once theyll get their asses deleveled to 49.
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:46 PM
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I have a really hard time understanding why people dont link pvp xp death with the horrible grind.

If people already have a hard time leveling on a low pop server, why let twinks run around to make people eat xp death? If the horrible solo grind is bad enough as it is, why make it worse? If you say that new players have a chance against decked out twinks, gtfo of here. They might win once in a while, but wont happen often.

I think theres 2 camps that are pushing for xp loss in pvp:

The "I want to hold pve spots camp easily through sheer numbers" camp

The "i want to delevel people outta the server lulz" camp

If there was only a timer (low health no mana on death) on xp death instead of xp loss, i guarantee you that Nihilum would not hold Fear all nite like they do.

I am currently in Nihilum, and i would want people come and challenge raid content. But they dont. Because of xp loss. Thats the ONLY reason Nihilum is not getting challenged in raid content.

Without xp loss, I can easily see people fighting all nite in fear, with 3-4 guilds staying there dukin it out for hours. You know, like on a pvp server.


INB4 the lulzdeleveluoutofserver xplossinsignificant people call me a bluebie and then cue crying about zerging because if they try anything more than once theyll get their asses deleveled to 49.
One second to enjoy the Lol...

OK Ecoli...

Do you know how much exp you lose with exp death? Do you know how long/many mobs it takes to make up for that exp loss? How do you expect someone to delevel people off the server exactly? The only way thats possible is if someone afk's at their bind spot.

Honestly, as a melee class, the only thing that I take into consideration when getting near death is, "o snap im gonna have to run back here if I die!" ...thats only if i'm far away from my bind and can't get to a zoneline, which means melee's shouldnt be too far away from a zoneline btw. Thats fun to me and is why I am on a PvP server.

..Who cares about the 2 blue ticks...
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:05 PM
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It takes longer to run back to a corpse than grind out the next to no xp you lose in a pvp death. Pretty sure you're unable to make any reasonable argument anyway as the last time I saw you try and string together a series of thoughts it failed terribly and the only thing you were able to do was attempt to make shit up to justify your beliefs.

But do go on, tell us why pvp isn't working while you sit behind double the numbers of every other guild on the server.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:24 PM
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It takes longer to run back to a corpse than grind out the next to no xp you lose in a pvp death. Pretty sure you're unable to make any reasonable argument anyway as the last time I saw you try and string together a series of thoughts it failed terribly and the only thing you were able to do was attempt to make shit up to justify your beliefs.

But do go on, tell us why pvp isn't working while you sit behind double the numbers of every other guild on the server.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:24 PM
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Rofl.

Someone said Nihilum sits in fear untouched because people are scared to lose pvp xp? Thats the most heinous thing I've heard on these forums (even worse than Nihilum's daily exaggerated numbers). Pvp exp loss is literally 1-2 dark blue kills or less than 5 minutes of group xp.

Also, have to laugh about people crying "bluebie" when it comes to supporting classic XP. Its people who support classic EQ that want it to be classic, you know, the people who love the entire game, as opposed to that group that seems to hate every aspect of Everquest except pvp ("red players"), and therefore cries daily to have it warped into something that will benefit them and give them an advantage.

NEWS FLASH, you bads aren't real red classic EQ players, because thats not what PVP was about on live unless you were in some laughable newbie gank squad. As a person that hasn't played a "bluebie server" since the 90s, I can still enjoy a game without trying to destroy it in favor of promoting one feature in said game. Maybe its time to admit you're beat and this isn't the game for you.
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:52 PM
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Rofl.

Someone said Nihilum sits in fear untouched because people are scared to lose pvp xp? Thats the most heinous thing I've heard on these forums (even worse than Nihilum's daily exaggerated numbers). Pvp exp loss is literally 1-2 dark blue kills or less than 5 minutes of group xp.
I said this, and i am in Nihilum. I am Ecoli.

You can say whatever you want about Holo and FF, but one thing you cant say, is that they dont like to pvp. So why else arent they attempting to cock block Nihilum in Fear when theres 28 of us in there? Because they will lose xp, almost guaranteed. And through sheer numerical advantage. Im not saying Nihi is good or bad at pvp, but its just a fact that most of the times, its 3v1+ vs the force thats sitting outside waiting for stragglers to kill.

Why are they staying outside so they can attempt better balanced/numeric force pvp if not because of the pvp loss?

Clue me in
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:07 PM
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I appreciate that you're making fun of your own guild, but

what is this I don't even
Yes i bet you dont even, logical thinking is in short supply around these parts
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:58 PM
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The saddest part about being in a zerg is when you don't know who your members are in-game or on the forums.

The poster you were referring to is Ecoli <Nihilum>, L2Forum

(Rest of your post is just garble. Most players you're referring to were 50 long before you were, didn't it take you until February?... next)
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Old 04-07-2012, 10:01 PM
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Without pvp xp loss it would be like fucking Battle Royale in there every night, instead of same ole same ole nobody attempting to challenge raid content.

Amelinda wouldnt even need to kick noobs in the nuts and there would be a self-sustaining pvp event each night.

(Dont hurt me Amelinda, it was a joke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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