Xzerion says TR isn't shown favoritism?

[Wiz]

Originally Posted by Kevlar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I left live for this place because I was tired of how the hackers and multiboxers ran rampant. I actually believed the server rules when I signed up that all of these asshats would get an irrevokable ip ban.

Some of us just don't want to play with cheaters. period.

I aggree with this i only started playing here cause i thought it was a small cummunity and it is and the gms seemed to enforce the law well uthgaard did..
But im not gonna waste anymore time playing when this server is CLEARLY CORRUPT FROM THE HIGHEST POSITION DOWN.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dropping 6 levels, all platinum, and 2 weeks suspension, that's a adequate punishment imo.

Some of you guys are really vindictive because you've had things happen to you in the past or are just straight bitter (G13 lol much respect) and now you think these people aren't getting the same treatment as you got or whatever...


I'd suggest marijuana for most of you, might help ease your stress.

That is not an adequate punishment. All of that exp and plat can be easily regained, especially when your guild is actively working to plvl you, and with a guild bank stock full of cash and items.

Your raid leader was caught using a 3rd party program to cheat. He has admitted he cheated openly during a raid against a competitive guild. If you do not distance yourself from this situation, by allowing him and other cheaters within your guild to re-app, you are making the statement that your guild accepts cheaters with open arms and will reward them.

If you want to cry in your cheerios and claim people have this opinion because they are vindictive than that's on you. You can try to mask your hypocrisy with arrogance and insults all you want. The facts are the facts. You can't troll your way around this one. IB/TR officer/raid leader was caught hacking/cheating and you accepted them back.

Previous guilds who had trackers/pullers/officers caught using SEQ were raid suspended for 2 weeks. The second time it was just a member that was caught, the guild suffered another 2 week raid suspension.

I propose that TR/IB suffer a 2 week raid suspension, since this can be considered your first infraction, and the player in question (beyond the numerous members that were caught cheating) was your raid leader/officer.

I have never cheated playing this game. There are a lot of players on this server with integrity that have never cheated, that have always assumed that other players played by the rules and it was an even playing field. By not taking appropriate action again your guild, the developers are making a statement. That they favor one guild over the other. EQUAL punishment is absolutely necessary to make this situation right.

Rogean you have always been reasonable. You know what I'm saying is true. If you're not going to perma ban these accounts, the proper and fair thing to do is at least hand out punishment that you yourself have previously set the precedent for, which is a 2 week raid suspension if an officer/raid leader is caught using a 3rd party program to cheat during competitive raids. Show the community they matter to you and do the right thing.

[Gwence]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is not an adequate punishment. All of that exp and plat can be easily regained, especially when your guild is actively working to plvl you, and with a guild bank stock full of cash and items.

Your raid leader was caught using a 3rd party program to cheat. He has admitted he cheated openly during a raid against a competitive guild. If you do not distance yourself from this situation, by allowing him and other cheaters within your guild to re-app, you are making the statement that your guild accepts cheaters with open arms and will reward them.

If you want to cry in your cheerios and claim people have this opinion because they are vindictive than that's on you. You can try to mask your hypocrisy with arrogance and insults all you want. The facts are the facts. You can't troll your way around this one. IB/TR officer/raid leader was caught hacking/cheating and you accepted them back.

Previous guilds who had trackers/pullers/officers caught using SEQ were raid suspended for 2 weeks. The second time it was just a member that was caught, the guild suffered another 2 week raid suspension.

I propose that TR/IB suffer a 2 week raid suspension, since this can be considered your first infraction, and the player in question (beyond the numerous members that were caught cheating) was your raid leader/officer.

I have never cheated playing this game. There are a lot of players on this server with integrity that have never cheated, that have always assumed that other players played by the rules and it was an even playing field. By not taking appropriate action again your guild, the developers are making a statement. That they favor one guild over the other. EQUAL punishment is absolutely necessary to make this situation right.

Rogean you have always been reasonable. You know what I'm saying is true. If you're not going to perma ban these accounts, the proper and fair thing to do is at least hand out punishment that you yourself have previously set the precedent for, which is a 2 week raid suspension if an officer/raid leader is caught using a 3rd party program to cheat during competitive raids. Show the community they matter to you and do the right thing.

We haven't accepted him back but if there is some kind of vote I would definitely support his return and probably anyone elses. I dont turn my back on my friends or guildies because they make a bad decision.

The stigma all the "outed" people will have to deal with is probably the worst part of all of it. The people on the frontlines of it all (sadly) have there name out there for all to know now. IMO that's a worse punishment than a permaban. Leaving the game in the rear view window is the easy way out. Having to face people for the next 6 months or so.. that's tough.


oh and of course... much respect

[Diggles]

Mala, I don't think your tinfoil hat is on tight enough

[mala]

Mala, I don't think your tinfoil hat is on tight enough

this completely derails my point, well done.

who are you again? wait... we dont care.

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by mala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who are you again? wait... we dont care.

this works both ways.

[mala]

this works both ways.

coming from a dedicated forum troll account this really hurts bro.

[Skope]

should read divinity tag, but the <'s and >'s don't play nice.

[JayDee]

Xzerion has committed treason imo

He was pretending to uphold the rules but he instead went sneakily behind everyone's back in an attempt to give one side an unfair advantage.

im appalled friends

[Gwence]

I dont want them to have a lessened punishment because they're my friends. I want them to have an adequate punishment, which it is, and then come back because this is a game and I dont take it as seriously as you apparently. If people enjoy playing this game I wouldn't wish it on anyone to never be able to play again.

The people that are habitual will get caught again, dont worry, and Im sure they'll be permanently gone. You're assuming some of the people caught now are habitual (which Im sure some are) and maybe this will change their outlook on it and they wont do it anymore. If they do then /shrug that's their choice and they will have to deal with those consequences as well.