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Old 10-01-2025, 01:56 PM
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It has been an unwritten rule on EQEmu for over a decade - don't fucking monetize. For the sake of the community as a whole, everybody (except a few rogue admins) abided by this.

But these fuckin pricks, Takahashi and Alexander decided to turn running an emulated server into a career. They were probably over the moons and so proud of themselves for turning a HUGE profit on an emu.

Despite warnings from other devs and admins: they pushed forward and ON TOP OF THAT tried to play coy, feign innocence and ignorance, and go toe-to-toe with a legal team that SPECIALIZES IN IP THEFT.

As a result, the entire EQEmu community, which has existed mostly peacefully and left alone for 15+ years has been shaken up. Servers that people have played on for 10+ years are shut down. The communities they gathered in are shut down.

We are insulated here on p99 - but the fallout from this shit is crazy. Imagine waking up tomorrow and Rogaen announces that at midnight, he's closing the Discord, Forums, eqemulator.org, and shutting down all P99 servers. On top of that, the reddit mobs at /r/Project1999 decide to permanently shut the sub down.

Now there would be droves of p99 players that called this community and have NO WHERE to go to continue that community connection, except for guild discords.

That is what happened yesterday, for Project EQ, EZ Server, and a half-dozen other EQEmu's that were playing by the unwritten rules of DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A PROFIT ON EQEMU.
Insulated but not fully protected. If I am DBG, once the dust settles, I am looking into every other EMU out there. I would not be surprised if this guy who shut down all these servers was getting some $$ under the table.

So while P1999 might be semi-safe, that agreement can go away anytime DBG wants it to. I 100% suspect this is why there are no new servers. If P1999 came out with a new server, it would immediately pull 2k people to it if not more. While it does not hurt DBG like THJ did, it would make them rethink their stance.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:01 PM
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The only thing that would protect P99 is if the EMU community stood together, instead of ripping itself apart.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:11 PM
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It has been an unwritten rule on EQEmu for over a decade - don't fucking monetize. For the sake of the community as a whole, everybody (except a few rogue admins) abided by this.

But these fuckin pricks, Takahashi and Alexander decided to turn running an emulated server into a career. They were probably over the moons and so proud of themselves for turning a HUGE profit on an emu.

Despite warnings from other devs and admins: they pushed forward and ON TOP OF THAT tried to play coy, feign innocence and ignorance, and go toe-to-toe with a legal team that SPECIALIZES IN IP THEFT.

As a result, the entire EQEmu community, which has existed mostly peacefully and left alone for 15+ years has been shaken up. Servers that people have played on for 10+ years are shut down. The communities they gathered in are shut down.

We are insulated here on p99 - but the fallout from this shit is crazy. Imagine waking up tomorrow and Rogaen announces that at midnight, he's closing the Discord, Forums, eqemulator.org, and shutting down all P99 servers. On top of that, the reddit mobs at /r/Project1999 decide to permanently shut the sub down.

Now there would be droves of p99 players that called this community and have NO WHERE to go to continue that community connection, except for guild discords.

That is what happened yesterday, for Project EQ, EZ Server, and a half-dozen other EQEmu's that were playing by the unwritten rules of DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A PROFIT ON EQEMU.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:14 PM
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p99, sure it's not suppose to get updates anymore, Shards of Dalaya was a completely different game also though with unironically like 100x more work put into it over the decade+ it was popular, and other servers like EZ

none of them took a giant shit on the floor or had a community compromised of complete fucking brainrot idiots shouting with a megaphone all over the internet gaining the attention of the eye of sarun, though.

the lame is coming from inside the house.
Dalaya dealt with a C&D by changing their name and ignoring it.

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Old 10-01-2025, 02:21 PM
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You are so edgy and cool. I mean it - like Tony Soprano levels of badass.
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Old 10-01-2025, 04:03 PM
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Just found out that THJ multiclass system in so much as how it was coded was not even created by Takahashi the grifter.

Secrets and another EMU dev worked on it for Classless and Chainbreaker servers - and then Takahashi took it and used it as a base for THJ.

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Old 10-01-2025, 04:54 PM
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You don't know your ass from the hole in the ground let alone what any of what you just said means.
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Old 10-01-2025, 05:34 PM
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It has been an unwritten rule on EQEmu for over a decade - don't fucking monetize. For the sake of the community as a whole, everybody (except a few rogue admins) abided by this.

But these fuckin pricks, Takahashi and Alexander decided to turn running an emulated server into a career. They were probably over the moons and so proud of themselves for turning a HUGE profit on an emu.

Despite warnings from other devs and admins: they pushed forward and ON TOP OF THAT tried to play coy, feign innocence and ignorance, and go toe-to-toe with a legal team that SPECIALIZES IN IP THEFT.

As a result, the entire EQEmu community, which has existed mostly peacefully and left alone for 15+ years has been shaken up. Servers that people have played on for 10+ years are shut down. The communities they gathered in are shut down.

We are insulated here on p99 - but the fallout from this shit is crazy. Imagine waking up tomorrow and Rogaen announces that at midnight, he's closing the Discord, Forums, eqemulator.org, and shutting down all P99 servers. On top of that, the reddit mobs at /r/Project1999 decide to permanently shut the sub down.

Now there would be droves of p99 players that called this community and have NO WHERE to go to continue that community connection, except for guild discords.

That is what happened yesterday, for Project EQ, EZ Server, and a half-dozen other EQEmu's that were playing by the unwritten rules of DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A PROFIT ON EQEMU.
Yup. I have no sympathy for any of these people. Nor do I find this "depressing news" like OP calls it. They deserve what's happening.
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Old 10-01-2025, 05:38 PM
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Nostalrius had a strict no monetization policy and they were shut down same way.

Hope this helps.
Nothing in this situation is relevant to P99. They have a legal agreement and DBG would be estopped from pulling the rug.
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Old 10-01-2025, 05:40 PM
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Nothing in this situation is relevant to P99. They have a legal agreement and DBG would be estopped from pulling the rug.
But that says Nost not P99?

I wouldn't disagree with anything you just said.
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