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Originally Posted by loramin
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I was responding to what you wrote. I won't try and address it all, as it was a massive post full of disingenuity
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But it's disingenuous to suggest that the massive post was what I wrote when it consisted mostly of quotes from others, copy/pasted.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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to pick one obvious example, you argued: The devs at SOE concluded that each player did in fact have the right to dictate less interaction with other people on those servers and allowed as much through the /ignore command while also providing GMs with commands of their own to restrict players who were deemed to be in violation of the rules.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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/ignore has nothing to do with how raiding is or isn't moderated: you even bringing it into the conversation (as if it was relevant) is disingenuous.
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EQ came from MUDs, text-based games, so it's hard to see how /ignore isn't relevant. But the conversation stopped being strictly about raiding and/or moderation right around here...
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Originally Posted by SantagarBrax View Post
You, nor any other player, hast the right to dictate less interaction with other people on the server simply because you don't like it.
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That is a very broad, black and white statement. The massive wall of copy/paste "disingenuity" highlighted the gray area that exists and there's a lot of it, hence the wall. Confronting people with a small blurb/direct quote earlier wasn't enough because those people chose to interpret it to fit their own point of view, which is fine but this the nature of genuinely debating a topic.
Again, the topic has expanded to cover interdependence and player interactions overall, but even just considering /ignore within the context of raids... If a player chooses to put someone on ignore, due to harassment, they won't see "TRAIN TO WEST EXIST" in /ooc from that player. Those situations rarely occur during draft week due to everyone picking their own times to train and kill targets. Clerics also use /rt to heal and have their heal chains in ooc/shout regularly, which opposing guilds have attempted to interfere with. Players have done this on golem races as well, /randoming when they weren't designated to do so. The list goes on, but that would lead to a wall of text...