Here's the real problem

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that was the case then people would just train the campers....but somehow that's agains the rules. So don't go with the play the game how you like bit because it's not like old EQ at all. There's the play nice rules in place to prevent it from being like old EQ. Which is what the whole issue is. There are double standards being applied here. You're saying that the people who camp all day should be allowed to do whatever they want and the people who can't...just deal with it. Personally I'd just put togther a massive train and remove the camper that has been there 8-12 hours in the same camp. Enchanters always made the best trainers...AoE stun and mezz then walk up to the camper and wait for the train. But that is agains the rules....

What are you talking about? Rules and play nice policies on kill stealing, training, etc. were put in place within months of launch in 1999. I don't know what "old EQ" you are talking about unless you're referring to the limited period of time right after launch in 1999 when the rules didn't exist because we had no idea that they would be necessary. We absolutely had rules in "old EQ" and I personally banned or suspended multiple people for violating them. If you're going to argue about things, you should make sure you know what you're talking about first.

[Silverfalcon]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you talking about? Rules and play nice policies on kill stealing, training, etc. were put in place within months of launch in 1999. I don't know what "old EQ" you are talking about unless you're referring to the limited period of time right after launch in 1999 when the rules didn't exist because we had no idea that they would be necessary. We absolutely had rules in "old EQ" and I personally banned or suspended multiple people for violating them. If you're going to argue about things, you should make sure you know what you're talking about first.

You're pretty funny...There were so few GMs around that any rules were very ever rarely enforced.

[Smellybuttface]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretty funny...There were so few GMs around that any rules were very ever rarely enforced.

That’s how we got such greats as Fansy the Bard:
https://www.notacult.com/fansythefamous.htm

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretty funny...There were so few GMs around that any rules were very ever rarely enforced.

First off, I love how you just were proved wrong and so you tried to move the goalposts lol. It went from there were no rules, to there weren't enough GMs to enforce the rules. Nice try.

What "days" are you referring to? If you're referring to the days soon after launch, there were no rules yet. It basically depended on the GM and server in question as to whether something was punishable and what the penalty was.

As the CSR team began to realize that things like kill stealing, training, and other forms of griefing were becoming prevalent, we got together with the goal of creating rules for uniform use across all servers. There were plenty of GMs and then Guides for rule enforcement. You clearly have no idea what you were talking about.

Rules were enforced daily...as I mentioned, I banned and suspended a large number of people as did everyone else on the CSR team (even had a crazy player try to sue me for banning them for multiple kill stealing and training violations). Usually the only reason someone might get away with something is if it only happened once or twice (i.e. they trained someone once, so it was obviously not ongoing when the petition was submitted); at the time, we were somewhat limited by technology (there weren't effective video recording methods like there are today, and so if it was a one time griefing and the person didn't admit it in the chat logs, it was difficult to prove). This technological issue for limited instances of griefing had nothing to do with whether rules were enforce or the number of CSR staff that existed.

[supermonk]

i enjoyed this thread. thank you