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[Maschenny]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The unclassic P99 competition system (vs. a rotation system). Once again, being willing to CoH-duck or do whatever stupid non-classic thing is necessary this month is different from being capable of assembling 50 of your friends and organizing them to kill a dragon.

My experience in classic was never get together with 50 of my friends and kill a dragon. It was more like the server's top guild didn't want a druid, so I didn't see any dragons. I've done so much more on P99 than I ever did on live and I'm grateful that it's not the same as classic. At least the top guilds on this server welcome literally everyone.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm mainly referring to the rotation system that got proposed and taken down here recently, which was largely about ToV. But look if you have an argument that rotations are best for P99 in zones X and Y, but not Z, by all means make it!

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

[jpetrick]

In your example the rotations were never for the top content yet you want ToV rotated (the current top content). You aren’t trying to have a debate, you are pushing your own agenda while claiming everyone else (most of them being people that point out the falacies of your arguments) are arguing in bad faith. You are the only one here arguing in bad faith. Shut the fuck up already you ignoramus.

[pogs4ever]

I think it’d cool for the server to do a divided up quake/spawn cycle like once a year. AA ban 2018 was pretty fun albeit tiring on the logistics.

Basically a GM Event

[loramin]

Originally Posted by zati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@ Loramin...I'm just a nobody but, here is my honest opinion.. isn't this server built around competition though?

Absolutely 100% not! Look in the upper right hand corner: reproducing classic EverQuest is what this server is built around! The unclassic "competition" is just the best solution the maintainers have found (thus far: they keep changing things over time). They want classic EQ, and based on what they've said they really would prefer not to have to deal with the raid scene at all.

Nobodies (your words [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) are entitled to their opinion to. So as a nobody on this server, ask yourself: do you think you should have to join a guild where people use artificial mechanisms (eg. CoH ducking) to "compete" in ways that never were practiced on live servers, or do you think any guild capable of killing dragons should have a chance to? Which server would you prefer to play on?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In your example the rotations were never for the top content yet you want ToV rotated (the current top content). You aren’t trying to have a debate, you are pushing your own agenda while claiming everyone else (most of them being people that point out the falacies of your arguments) are arguing in bad faith. You are the only one here arguing in bad faith. Shut the fuck up already you ignoramus.

On the contrary there has been a mix of dishonest and honest arguments made in this thread (as is common for RnF). I'm going to keep calling out the dishonest ones as dishonest, and trying to engage with the honest ones, and I'll take my rustling of people like you as a sign I'm on the right track.

[pogs4ever]

I heard it’s pretty hard to get a DA idol anyways.

[bthomsen0312]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a "which is more classic" competition ... although it it was, I honestly think the argument is stronger for rotations being classic than the FTE messages and the rest of the P99 "competition" system (which never existed on any live servers, whereas rotations absolutely did on some).

There was not a single guild on live that was rotating current content.

zero
zilch
none
nada

P99 guilds also allow "bottom tier" classes to attend raids in large numbers which wouldn't have happened on live. If you were in a top end guild you were useful or you were cut.

Currently on "repop day" there are 3 guilds (and maybe more) that are going to be for sure functionally locked in and getting loot in TOV

Core
AM
AG

These guys COMPETE against each other which allows smaller guilds like PS and BG etc to steal some smaller fries (see CS dragon)

If I'm AM and I'm locked out of TOV for 4 weeks how do you think those smaller guilds like BG and PS are going to fair when AM is sitting around waiting for their "rotation". They won't have anything else to do other than kill smaller targets and they have the resources and toons to be parked everywhere if they don't need to worry about a vulak pop.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

WHY?

Please, stop just saying things as if they're self-evidently true: make an honest argument. I keep trying to help you:

I believe _____ is the best raid system overall for everyone on Project 1999 because _______

You can't leave the because part off (well, I mean, you can, but then you're not making an argument, you're just yelling things into space).

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Top content shouldn’t be rotated, you could rotate Kunark and get your freebie pixels and no one would care. Tov is top content

let's compromise and rotate every mob that doesnt drop a bis item