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Old 03-11-2010, 03:36 AM
Ikeren Ikeren is offline
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He said "Separating church and state. That's what allowed the government to shit all over everyones rights" or something along those lines. A god's existence or non-existence is irrelevant; all that's needed is a correlation of rights after the separation of church and state---easily done.

@IRS: Okay, done. What's next?
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:50 AM
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Even removing the God portion of the statement, the basic premise is still there.

There's no reason to get caught up in semantics or on the simple fact its a religious statement in origin.
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Old 03-11-2010, 04:43 PM
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Heh, Lanor. When a group has been sitting silent for 4 hours aside from the pull messages, I get bored, try to start a conversation. Didn't realize you were annoyed; sorry. I find food is usually a good random conversation starter; everyone loves food.


Proving certain things: Hasbin is right if he specifically said that, but I think the wording was more around the premise that "Separation of church and state led to a loss of rights," and while using the language of god, that argument is still counterable, by demonstrating a correlation of rights after the separation of church and state. As I did.

That being said, I agree that god is a weak premise in a modern context.
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