Activists Hold Funeral For Frozen Chicken In Store

[maskedmelon]

i still get nauseous preparing meats and I would without a doubt stop eating meat if I had to kill animals. i couldn't do it. i can't even fish.

first I had trouble with worms. not because they are gross and slimy either. i picked them up plenty when I was little, but generally preferred to look at them in my palm because they seemed calmer that way. i had trouble with the idea of putting it on a hook. even with someone else doing it for me, it bothered me to look at the worm there and made me feel bad. so I used powerbait (that stuff in the jar that is colorful and smells liek butt). It worked great. i never had to impale a worm (never actually managed to do it myself) and could bait my own hook.

so then I finally caught a fish. I was excited. I reeled it in and saw the hook in its mouth and felt bad as my dad removed it with pliers. the fish looked terrified. of course all fish do, it's just their natural expression, but still to me it looked afraid. I was horrified when my dad pulled out a stringer and shoved it through the fish's chin. i pleaded that we just put it through the flappy part in the side of it's head, but my dad explained to me that that was his gill and he would suffocated if we did that. he assured me the fish was fine and couldn't feel anything as he dropped it back into the water on the stringer. "See," my dad told me "he's fine. He's ready to swim off and meet his buddies." only he couldn't do that :c i baited my hook and put my line back in the water before returning to the fish. I watched him there. he didnt look happy at all.

we fished a while longer and caught a couple more before I began pleading with my dad to let them go. i started crying and he agreed and we let the fish go. we didn't fish much more after that and when we did, it would turn out similarly. as I got older, i tried to get over it, but never really was able to. i stopped crying about it, but still felt bad for the fish and ultimately began declining to go even though it was one of the few activities we did together and the rat of the experience was always fun and somewhat adventurous. i lieked all the gear (despite its grizzly purpose) and assembling my line and stuff and waking up when it was still dark and stopping by the convenience store to purchase snacks. it was all good. but I didn't liek catching fish. i didn't liek hurting them or the worms.

i still get upset when I step on a slug or worm. They come out a lot in the early morning when it rains and I am extraordinarily absent minded, so inevitably, one ends up beneath my shoe and I feel bad.

I eat meat though. i eat it because it tastes good and generally doesn't look anything liek the animal it came from and i do not have to harvest it myself. most importantly though, i do not feel it is wrong simply because the thought of killing an animal makes me feel bad. there are many people who do not feel bad about it. There are also many things that make me feel bad that should not. for example, i feel bad winning in situations of real competition for resources such as business. it makes my job difficult, but I hold the needs of my people above my own. whether it's my family or co workers or employer, the needs of those closest to me are more important than those further from me. i also feel bad about killing plants or breaking things or interrupting people, but none of those things are inherently bad. They can be conditionally bad, but they can also be conditionally good.

the point is, feeling bad about something does not make it wrong. everything exists to be consumed, be it by cumulative error and time or other entities. life is only sustainable with death and abstaining from one source of life is no more inherently virtuous than abstaining from another.

you also deny creatures purpose by refusing to eat them. prey animals exist to be eaten. it gives them a reason to exist however humble it may be. what would you propose we do with them? release them all to them all into the wild that each might find its end in the jaws of another predator? perhaps we should safeguard them, purging the world of all predacious creatures that they might find their end with starvation following a period of lameness due to a broken limb or lack of teeth due to gum disease. certainly that would be preferable to execution?

just be thankful for their sacrifice and put their energy to productive use by exercising your superior cognition to forge a path toward universal cessation and an end to the misery of existence.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WOW someone is drinking that 'left/right division' tactic Kool-Aid HARD!

This is actually a very typical r-selected response. All of those claims of 'success for everyone' don't work unless the r-selected people are considered part of the group. It's also noteworthy that you utterly failed to apply logic and reason.

That being said, I wrote this post in a rather trollish way. In reality, r/k is yin and yang. The problem is that birth control and computers have pushed modern millenials so far r that they have become utterly incompetent, and Western Civilization is going to collapse as a result. I'm a little salty about that.

Originally Posted by Qaos

So you're saying that since we have progressed somewhat since other more hobbesian societies that conservatism will become more and more outdated?

Well, I think there are two ways to look at that. The first way is that we 'progressed' aka became lazy slugs too far too fast, hence our 100 trillion unfunded liabilities in the US and are due for a major reversion to the Hobbesian mean. The second way is . . . well, have you seen WALL-E? Would you find that kind of life fulfilling?

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is actually a very typical r-selected response. All of those claims of 'success for everyone' don't work unless the r-selected people are considered part of the group. It's also noteworthy that you utterly failed to apply logic and reason.

That being said, I wrote this post in a rather trollish way. In reality, r/k is yin and yang. The problem is that birth control and computers have pushed modern millenials so far r that they have become utterly incompetent, and Western Civilization is going to collapse as a result. I'm a little salty about that.

But if this happens the r/kelly conservative norms are more likely to survive in a post-apocalyptic world...win?

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is a great example of r/k theory. R-selected people (modern liberals) are optimized for periods of abundance. To maximize your reproductive success in an environment of abundance, you need to fuck a lot and avoid conflict. This ensures you produce the maximum number of children who don't pointlessly injure themselves competing over infinite resources. Meanwhile, K-selected people (modern conservatives) are genetically optimized for periods of scarcity and have the inverse tendencies.

Any sort of conflict or competition or ranking triggers R-selected people, because these people are naturally less evolutionarily fit than their k-selected counterparts, and they know they are the bottom of the barrel. This is why liberals constantly talk about 'XXX for everyone'. Free healthcare. Free education. Participation trophies. Success for all. Don't blame the victim. Anything that involves effort on their part is immoral. What liberals really want is an infinite field of grass with no predators upon which they can reproduce infinitely. Contrast this with the Declaration of Independence, which talks about the pursuit of happiness. The founders, like all ancients, were k-selected. After all, they didn't have nearly infinite food and computers to do all of their annoying tasks for them.

Animal rights are simply another manifestation of these r-selected neuroses. A liberal sees someone killing an animal, and thinks 'oh god, that guy looks dangerous. He is both willing an able to kill that animal; if times get tough that could be me. Let's take away his gun and get him on a high estrogen soy based diet like me, so he won't be a threat' Since they are emotionally incapable of rising to our level, they try to pull us down to theirs with nonsense like 'peoplehood for animals'.

well put

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is a great example of r/k theory. R-selected people (modern liberals) are optimized for periods of abundance. To maximize your reproductive success in an environment of abundance, you need to fuck a lot and avoid conflict. This ensures you produce the maximum number of children who don't pointlessly injure themselves competing over infinite resources. Meanwhile, K-selected people (modern conservatives) are genetically optimized for periods of scarcity and have the inverse tendencies.

Any sort of conflict or competition or ranking triggers R-selected people, because these people are naturally less evolutionarily fit than their k-selected counterparts, and they know they are the bottom of the barrel. This is why liberals constantly talk about 'XXX for everyone'. Free healthcare. Free education. Participation trophies. Success for all. Don't blame the victim. Anything that involves effort on their part is immoral. What liberals really want is an infinite field of grass with no predators upon which they can reproduce infinitely. Contrast this with the Declaration of Independence, which talks about the pursuit of happiness. The founders, like all ancients, were k-selected. After all, they didn't have nearly infinite food and computers to do all of their annoying tasks for them.

Animal rights are simply another manifestation of these r-selected neuroses. A liberal sees someone killing an animal, and thinks 'oh god, that guy looks dangerous. He is both willing an able to kill that animal; if times get tough that could be me. Let's take away his gun and get him on a high estrogen soy based diet like me, so he won't be a threat' Since they are emotionally incapable of rising to our level, they try to pull us down to theirs with nonsense like 'peoplehood for animals'.

So you're saying that since we have progressed somewhat since other more hobbesian societies that conservatism will become more and more outdated?

[hyejin]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is a great example of r/k theory. R-selected people (modern liberals) are optimized for periods of abundance. To maximize your reproductive success in an environment of abundance, you need to fuck a lot and avoid conflict. This ensures you produce the maximum number of children who don't pointlessly injure themselves competing over infinite resources. Meanwhile, K-selected people (modern conservatives) are genetically optimized for periods of scarcity and have the inverse tendencies.

Any sort of conflict or competition or ranking triggers R-selected people, because these people are naturally less evolutionarily fit than their k-selected counterparts, and they know they are the bottom of the barrel. This is why liberals constantly talk about 'XXX for everyone'. Free healthcare. Free education. Participation trophies. Success for all. Don't blame the victim. Anything that involves effort on their part is immoral. What liberals really want is an infinite field of grass with no predators upon which they can reproduce infinitely. Contrast this with the Declaration of Independence, which talks about the pursuit of happiness. The founders, like all ancients, were k-selected. After all, they didn't have nearly infinite food and computers to do all of their annoying tasks for them.

Animal rights are simply another manifestation of these r-selected neuroses. A liberal sees someone killing an animal, and thinks 'oh god, that guy looks dangerous. He is both willing an able to kill that animal; if times get tough that could be me. Let's take away his gun and get him on a high estrogen soy based diet like me, so he won't be a threat' Since they are emotionally incapable of rising to our level, they try to pull us down to theirs with nonsense like 'peoplehood for animals'.

i'm optimized proudly for the acquisition and maintenance of abundance. ^^

I smell less like nitrogen fertilizer, I'm better looking, I spend less money on food. My cooking takes way less time. My staples keep indefinitely and are always on hand, so I only visit the grocery store weekly OR LESS while cooking every meal that I eat. I am not required to sterilize counters and dishes with harsh chemicals after cooking -- a wipe will do. It is very difficult for me to overconsume. Helpless entities with their own subjective experiences do not have terror and torture injected into those experiences so that I can eat yum-yum candy. Abandoning the cycle of addiction, hedonism, and self-harm has conferred a tremendous competitive advantage to me and the time (LOTS of it), energy, health gained or conserved can be invested into the people I love. Unlike a meat-eater, I am committed to loving the people in my life fully.

Obviously the return to a more primitive state could necessitate my eating meat again to subsist. I would not have a problem with that. If we're really getting as sub100k redneck-family-dinner-table as your post I'll regrettably have to present the flip side: during the most risky period of the development of scarcity, when supplies dwindled to grain stores, I would be experiencing no withdrawal from meat. I am clearly no less optimized for than you are for scarcity and I probably also own more guns. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

About the source of vegetarianism culturally you're exactly right, dum-dum. Just like virtue and computer video games, conscious vegetarianism derives from sentience. It's a manifestation of that little bright-white kernel of you aside from the fat body and rumbly tummy that your mom loves. Don't curse the divine.

[Fasttimes]

Originally Posted by hyejin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm optimized proudly for the acquisition and maintenance of abundance. ^^

I smell less like nitrogen fertilizer, I'm better looking, I spend less money on food. My cooking takes way less time. My staples keep indefinitely and are always on hand, so I only visit the grocery store weekly OR LESS while cooking every meal that I eat. I am not required to sterilize counters and dishes with harsh chemicals after cooking -- a wipe will do. It is very difficult for me to overconsume. Helpless entities with their own subjective experiences do not have terror and torture injected into those experiences so that I can eat yum-yum candy. Abandoning the cycle of addiction, hedonism, and self-harm has conferred a tremendous competitive advantage to me and the time (LOTS of it), energy, health gained or conserved can be invested into the people I love. Unlike a meat-eater, I am committed to loving the people in my life fully.

Obviously the return to a more primitive state could necessitate my eating meat again to subsist. I would not have a problem with that. If we're really getting as sub100k redneck-family-dinner-table as your post I'll regrettably have to present the flip side: during the most risky period of the development of scarcity, when supplies dwindled to grain stores, I would be experiencing no withdrawal from meat. I am clearly no less optimized for than you are for scarcity and I probably also own more guns. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

About the source of vegetarianism culturally you're exactly right, dum-dum. Just like virtue and computer video games, conscious vegetarianism derives from sentience. It's a manifestation of that little bright-white kernel of you aside from the fat body and rumbly tummy that your mom loves. Don't curse the divine.

You sound like someone without vulak pixels. Sorry for your loss.

[Fasttimes]

No veagan diet, no veagan powers.

[Patriam1066]

Horrifying post on many levels Spyder, please seek help from Christ this Halloween

[Spyder73]

Trigger level RED RED RED