If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Chanus]

Okay, reading comprehension.

Try it again.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how people use " we can't prove there is a God....YET! But there is" arguments like it makes their superstitions any more valid than the polytheist ideas or anything equally is crazy. So if it can't be be proven than it MUST exist? If that was the case, I could interject that there is a magical tea pot floating in our solar system. Of course, it's too small to see and would never be able to be proven, but since we are using this logic, why can't my belief in the tea pot be any less valid than your man in the sky?

A good quote comes to mind here from Stephen Roberts, "I contend that we are all atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."

Oh ye of little faith.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, reading comprehension.

Try it again.

What do you mean rereading comprehension? YOU literally said there was AS MUCH PROOF OF A GOD as there was not a god, so i want to know what the facts are that show a God at all?

[Chanus]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean rereading comprehension? YOU literally said there was AS MUCH PROOF OF A GOD as there was not a god, so i want to know what the facts are that show a God at all?

I'll give you a hint, as you clearly are struggling here.

Are there facts that indicate the non-existence of a god?

[boboo]

its hard to prove or disprove the existence or non-existence of god(s). Although usually, its pretty easy to prove how organized religion is just a tool to control people and make money by manipulating the fear of death in humans.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

as i just quoted, what are these FACTS indicating god exists? If you give me the emotional " look at the beauty of our earth" type response, i'll slap you.

How about the complexity of something as simple as an atom? How about the evidence around the world that supports these "Bible stories" such as the Massive boat that just happens to be on the side of a mountain in the middle east, just coincidence I assume?

Regardless, Faith comes by hearing, not by seeing. If you choose to have enough faith to believe that God doesn't exist, that's fine, why don't you take to proving that He doesn't exist. Some of the greatest minds in history have taken to this task only to find the more they looked to disprove God, the further they proved Him.

Even leading scientists at this point do not believe in the THEORY of evolution anymore.

How about this, I'll take a watch apart, put all the tiny little pieces in a bag, give to you, and let you shake it for 10,000 years. What are the odds your watch will come together ticking, and on time at the end of that? That's what people who choose to believe in evolution are believing. Yet they call us the crazy ones...

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll give you a hint, as you clearly are struggling here.

Are there facts that indicate the non-existence of a god?

The burden of proof is on you, Chanus, not science.

If that was the case, anyone could conjunct their own crazy ideas of whatever imaginary character ever, and we would have to believe them an be tolerant of it, by your logic.

We don't need to proof there isn't a God, the burden lies on religion to prove there is.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about the complexity of something as simple as an atom? How about the evidence around the world that supports these "Bible stories" such as the Massive boat that just happens to be on the side of a mountain in the middle east, just coincidence I assume?

Regardless, Faith comes by hearing, not by seeing. If you choose to have enough faith to believe that God doesn't exist, that's fine, why don't you take to proving that He doesn't exist. Some of the greatest minds in history have taken to this task only to find the more they looked to disprove God, the further they proved Him.

Even leading scientists at this point do not believe in the THEORY of evolution anymore.

How about this, I'll take a watch apart, put all the tiny little pieces in a bag, give to you, and let you shake it for 10,000 years. What are the odds your watch will come together ticking, and on time at the end of that? That's what people who choose to believe in evolution are believing. Yet they call us the crazy ones...

Ahh, the blind watcher maker argument. An amazingly obsolete and dull conjecture by the church that still pops up even today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDdn0UPDjmk Richard Dawkins explains micro evolution and why you're terribly misinformed on what the process is.

[Mardur]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So being atheist is a bad thing?

Yes, it takes the same amount of idiocy and close-mindedness to completely deny the existence of God as it does to have complete faith in the existence of God.

I believe in God, I also don't believe the world was created 6000 years ago and I believe in evolution. I'm not Christian.

I don't really care what other people believe, but agnosticism is 100x preferable to atheism.

[chtulu]

Next rocket moose will produce the "razor's edge" argument. Are you sure your pastor isn't right behind you?

Or at you subscribing to some website that supports Intelligence design as if it were some actual theory and quantified science?