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Old 09-25-2016, 12:06 PM
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They saw him with a gun in the car. He didn't exit the vehicle when asked. He only got out after they smashed his window. Even then, it looks like he was backing away to get in position to shoot.
Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.
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Old 09-25-2016, 01:03 PM
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Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.
The police were there serving a warrant. They ended up with the wrong guy but the wrong guy just so happened to be a felon in possession of a gun. I am going to assume that you have not seen the footage taken by the victim's wife. This will show how uncooperative the guy was being. The guy is surrounded by officers. They saw a gun in the vehicle. They are yelling telling him to put the gun down and exit the vehicle. This genius gets out with the gun in his hand (its in his left hand as he is backing away and the ankle holster on his right ankle). There are pictures from the scene of the gun after the shooting and the gun appears to be ready to be fired but that is speculation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcXmaqfG58U

I like how recently rappers like Kevin Gates are speaking out against groups like BLM. Gates is a convicted felon and he states basically anytime he was messed with by the cops its because he was being a *radio edit*. He said change your attitude and you wont have any problem with the cops. Gates is a Muslim also if I recall. He has an interesting view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlWMunmMwqo
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The police were there serving a warrant. They ended up with the wrong guy but the wrong guy just so happened to be a felon in possession of a gun. I am going to assume that you have not seen the footage taken by the victim's wife. This will show how uncooperative the guy was being. The guy is surrounded by officers. They saw a gun in the vehicle. They are yelling telling him to put the gun down and exit the vehicle. This genius gets out with the gun in his hand (its in his left hand as he is backing away and the ankle holster on his right ankle). There are pictures from the scene of the gun after the shooting and the gun appears to be ready to be fired but that is speculation.
The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady. It might or might not be an ankle holster at his feet but the picture ive seen is very blurry. What ive seen is a guy not pointing a gun at cops, hands on his side, being riddled with bullets.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting. I raised my voice a little to let passersby know that this cop was hurting me for no reason.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:04 PM
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The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in the court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.
Did you watch that Kevin Gates video I linked? It might help put into perspective your current and past experiences with law enforcement.
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The thing is, i put absolutely 0 value in what cops say anymore. It is absolutely not, in my mind, something far fatched to think that some cops say "stop resisting" or "drop the gun" as a pre-emptive way to cover their ass as they are about to do something shady. It might or might not be an ankle holster at his feet but the picture ive seen is very blurry. What ive seen is a guy not pointing a gun at cops, hands on his side, being riddled with bullets.

I speak from experience. I do protests in Montreal. Heres what im fighting right now in court:

A 400$ ticket, that was given to me by a cop because i was "impeding pedestrian traffic". He gave me that phoney ticket because i asked him to identify himself, as he had just arrested my friend who was playing music but only as loud as the cars passing by, which will be part of our defense when we go to court next year.

So for no good reason, he arrests my friend, then when i ask him his name and badge number (its in his deontology code, hes obliged to do it), he makes up a phoney excuse to give me a 400$ ticket. He even added a 150$ fine for "audible noise" when he started to twist my wrist while saying "stop resisting". I was in no way resisting. I raised my voice a little to let passersby know that this cop was hurting me for no reason.

I could write all day about these sorts of experience with cops. So i find it either naive, or in bad faith when people say well cops said this or that as if thats not matter to doubting.
"I'm black, I played loud music in public and talked back when a cop asked me to stop and as a result got fined $400. I don't understand why I can't act like a child and not be treated like one."

None of you get it. You're entitled, talk in movie theaters, and generally annoying as fuck. Good thing God invented basketball
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Old 09-25-2016, 06:23 PM
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Holy premise batman

"They saw him with a gun in his car"

"He didnt exit when asked"

Again, how do you come to those conclusions?

Because thats what a cop said? "Drop the gun?" We all know police never cover their ass in any fashion. Im not saying what happened or what didnt happen.

What positively happened though, that we can confirm looking at the video, is a guy with both hands at his side backing away from a vehicule, with no gun in sight.

"Hes backing away to get in position to shoot" Thats what they call "judgement of intentions" in court.
Did you watch the wife's video? How many times did she say to get out the car and don't let them break the window? Then she changes her tune to "don't you do it." Clearly she's talking to her husband. I don't care that you have an issue with cops, and I'm not here to change your opinion.

If you ask me, she's just as bad as he was. Her husband gets shot in front of her and all she does is say "he better not be dead..." over and over while continuing to argue with the police. That's the thug life right there.

I'm not saying I'm glad he got shot, but I am saying it's his own fault. He had plenty of time to do what they asked. The longer he resists the itchier those trigger fingers get. Why tempt fate? That's just dumb.
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Video has been released of the shooting. Guy clearly has an ankle holster and something in his hands when he gets out of the vehicle. Whether he intended harm to the officers is doubtful but his refusal to comply mixed with the weapon means the cop will probably not be charged.

https://youtu.be/U7zL49wnN6s
This. I got a little emotional earlier about it with a friend, he reminded me that, hey, compliance isn't optional. If an officer feels threatened enough to have lethal force out, you should probably "break" yourself as they say in the hood and listen and ask what they want you to do next.

Some officers get stuck on the hands up part, and stop issuing commands while they just stare at you with their hands up. You should probably be saying "What do you want me to do now?, What now?" Instead of getting butthurt about it or feeling that you are being targeted. Its lethal fucking force afterall man.

Some of the scientists on this forum make me smile hard. Try following commands and complying instead of treating it like a chore, or taking it personal. Fix your attitude and things like this won't happen.

Its lethal force. Alas, the skulls may be too dense.
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This. I got a little emotional earlier about it with a friend, he reminded me that, hey, compliance isn't optional. If an officer feels threatened enough to have lethal force out, you should probably "break" yourself as they say in the hood and listen and ask what they want you to do next.

Some officers get stuck on the hands up part, and stop issuing commands while they just stare at you with their hands up. You should probably be saying "What do you want me to do now?, What now?" Instead of getting butthurt about it or feeling that you are being targeted. Its lethal fucking force afterall man.

Some of the scientists on this forum make me smile hard. Try following commands and complying instead of treating it like a chore, or taking it personal. Fix your attitude and things like this won't happen.
Since we are reposting, just reloading again.

Any time someone doesn't read the thread, I'll start doing it in an attempt to correct the course of the discussion so we don't have to read the same shit that was just posted on the previous page.

I encourage the other regulars to get involved with this new movement.

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