Smoking weed in group

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Seaweedpimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are you going to answer my question? Or just spit out bullshit that pot makes you dumb?

You said smoking pot wasn't bad for the brain at all. It messes with your memory by attaching to the brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons.

Next you said ditch weed can be toxic but that is actually the organic pot and it sucks.

The main idea of farmers being organic is to avoid ruining the soils for future generations and also to avoid getting chemicals, steroids (in meat) and pesticides in the food.

So the ditch weed you talk about, would actually be organic because it doesn't have any added chemicals.

Any good grower uses chemicals to help grow - organic shit sucks. You may use some types of organic seed oil to feed your plant but thats just one aspect of it. There are still fertilizers and soils you should use that aren't organic. Thats why pot is so much better now than it was years ago.

Some growers do like to use a soil that is organic, or stripped of all chemicals, but that is just because they want to be in full control of what is put into the soil and they add their own chemicals to it. If you are a lazy grower you would just use miracle grow for tomatoes with some cheap supplements that you mix in with the waterings.

[Excision Rottun]

What about doing Ketamine?

[Lucrio40]

Sounds like Theldios is trying hard to be like Harrison...speaking of that, where has he been lately? I haven't been called an obsessed loser in a couple days.

[Shaun421]

Originally Posted by Lucrio40 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like Theldios is trying hard to be like Harrison...speaking of that, where has he been lately? I haven't been called an obsessed loser in a couple days.

Yeah, there has been an distinct absence of prickishness and cockery in the forums as of late...

[purist]

William Slikker et al., Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey, Fundamental and Applied Toxicology 17: 321-32 (1991).

Charles Rebert & Gordon Pryor - Chronic Inhalation of Marijuana Smoke and Brain Electrophysiology of Rhesus Monkeys, International Journal of Psychophysiology V 14, p.144, 1993.

I tried to attach both studies but the file size is too big, I will be happy to email anyone the PDFs.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

William Slikker et al., Chronic Marijuana Smoke Exposure in the Rhesus Monkey, Fundamental and Applied Toxicology 17: 321-32 (1991).

Charles Rebert & Gordon Pryor - Chronic Inhalation of Marijuana Smoke and Brain Electrophysiology of Rhesus Monkeys, International Journal of Psychophysiology V 14, p.144, 1993.

I tried to attach both studies but the file size is too big, I will be happy to email anyone the PDFs.

I read the 1st articul from 1991. It stattes only effects to the general health of the monkeys that were exposed and that the dosage was 1 Mj cig a day everyday for EXTRA HIGH dosage and a 1 everyday but only during the week for HIGH dosage. Which going by size and weight may be the right dosage. But thet study in way says anything about it causeing or not causing brain dmg in the test subjects it only comments on general health after 1 year of exposure

The 2nd link takes me a University login that I have no login to read that article

So far no proof about the brain damage effect but proof that it does decrease general health overall much as cigarrete smoke does

[purist]

Think whatever you want about it being a gateway drug, but you can't make an empirical claim (e.g. it kills brain cells) based on phony science that's been debunked time after time.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think whatever you want about it being a gateway drug, but you can't make an empirical claim (e.g. it kills brain cells) based on phony science that's been debunked time after time.

Neither of those studies shows any conclusive evidence that pot smoke does not cause brain dmg. How can you form an actual experiment with only 2 test subjects such as the 2nd test did. It also showed that there was something different in the brain wave patterns in the monkey exposed to pot smoke while in the one that was not showed no effects.
"Exposure to marihuana produces substantial changes in
acute brain electrophysiology but does not appear to produce
persistent functional pathology."
This is from the 2nd link you posted showing that yes indeed pot does effect the brain. The 1st link you posted does not even speak about the effects of pot smoke on the brain at all it just makes conclusions as to general health and at least that one did study more than 2 monkeys.
Yes the 2nd article says that the previous evidence is not supported in their study but their study does seem to be a bit shady if not down right messed up in only using 2 test subjects and not actully doing autopsies on the brains of the monkeys to see if their was actual dmg or not.
Seems like your evidence is not truly supportive of pot smoke not causing brain dmg
Please try to bring better evidence to the table so far mine has stood up and shown that it does cause brain dmg. ture it was done on a scale that it may have been caused by something else(the breathing issue) but the ones you bring forth are actully not even close to proving that it does not

[purist]

Sup. I know you admitted you're dumb and all, but try to pay attention.

This is an argument about there's any evidence THC kills brain cells. Not whether it affects the brain. Not whether it affects your general health. Just whether it kills brain cells.

Both studies replicated the Heath experiment and found no evidence that it does.

If you think they found evidence that it does, please show me where.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sup. I know you admitted you're dumb and all, but try to pay attention.

This is an argument about there's any evidence THC kills brain cells. Not whether it affects the brain. Not whether it affects your general health. Just whether it kills brain cells.

Both studies replicated the Heath experiment and found no evidence that it does.

If you think they found evidence that it does, please show me where.

Neither study replicates the original experiment in no way no how did they even come close to doing what the 1st experiment did.
Hell the 2nd experiment only used 2 monkeys and did show change in brain wave patterns since that is all it was looking at
The 1st one did not even look at the brain at all and went a bit further at doing mabey 1/8 the exposure the original experiment did but again it did not study the brain at all.
So again bring something to the table that actully refutes the evidence that it does or bring nothign at all cause so far thats what you have done. Brought a couple of half baked expeirments that did not even look at the brain cells of the monekys and were in no way in the scale of dosage or monekys used to make a true control that the 1st experiment was
Bring real conclusive evidence cause so far you have brough half assed crap