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Old 01-18-2015, 03:04 AM
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The entirety of academia does not agree with a few radical feminists that think transgenderism is inherently misogynistic.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:10 AM
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The entirety of academia does not agree with a few radical feminists that think transgenderism is inherently misogynistic.
Not that specific detail no, but they have formatted their entire curriculum around every other aspect of the narrative that those same people have created.
Ergo, those individuals are still not irrelevant.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:15 AM
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If we're still talking about trans issues, then they're irrelevant to me and to the people I actually respect and consider educated on the matter. Like I said earlier; someone can make significant contributions to feminism and still get it entirely wrong on more nuanced issues. This doesn't negate their other contributions, or mean that everything they do and say is wrong.
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Old 01-18-2015, 04:08 AM
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I mean, I have no doubt that there are radical feminists who try to marginalize transgenderism, I'm just saying I don't read them and I don't pay any attention to them. As soon as I encounter, "All transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact", I'd close the book and forget about it.

It's like, just because a dude posts a selfie on Instagram holding up a sign that says, "This is what a feminist looks like", that doesn't make him a feminist, you know? So many self-proclaimed "feminists" are probably just abusers or assholes who don't know the first thing about feminist theory or women's issues, or even just being an intellectually honest person in general.

But yeah, I'm not trying to trivialize the fact that it's been a problem. I have the luxury of identifying with the gender I was assigned before birth, so I can't really speak about what it's like to be a transgendered person and how feminism has affected the trans movement with any authority. I'm just saying that even though an author has made significant contributions to feminism, they're still capable of saying horrifyingly discriminatory and indefensible shit that should absolutely be either criticized harshly or outright ignored.

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If we're still talking about trans issues, then they're irrelevant to me and to the people I actually respect and consider educated on the matter. Like I said earlier; someone can make significant contributions to feminism and still get it entirely wrong on more nuanced issues. This doesn't negate their other contributions, or mean that everything they do and say is wrong.
I just want you to recognize your own cognitive dissonance. I'm not making fun of you, I'm asking you to pick one stance because your statements are mutually exclusive.
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:33 PM
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I just want you to recognize your own cognitive dissonance. I'm not making fun of you, I'm asking you to pick one stance because your statements are mutually exclusive.
I don't think they're as mutually exclusive as you think. I mean, I'd still close the book, but just because I've chosen not to pay any attention to them doesn't mean that everything they do and say is irrelevant. I think this was pretty well implied in my previous posts, though I do tend to make a lot of broad, sweeping statements that can be easily misunderstood. When I said, "I don't pay any attention to them because they don't matter," I'm just talking about their views on trans issues - that post was more for the sake of saying "because" was a better word than "therefore" rather than saying radical feminists that get something wrong are irrelevant.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:00 PM
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I don't think they're as mutually exclusive as you think. I mean, I'd still close the book, but just because I've chosen not to pay any attention to them doesn't mean that everything they do and say is irrelevant. I think this was pretty well implied in my previous posts, though I do tend to make a lot of broad, sweeping statements that can be easily misunderstood. When I said, "I don't pay any attention to them because they don't matter," I'm just talking about their views on trans issues - that post was more for the sake of saying "because" was a better word than "therefore" rather than saying radical feminists that get something wrong are irrelevant.
Ok I'll accept that. Though I still have a hunch that the cognitive dissonance in your posting is at best a precursor to the direction your thinking methods are heading.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:30 PM
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Ok I'll accept that. Though I still have a hunch that the cognitive dissonance in your posting is at best a precursor to the direction your thinking methods are heading.
I'm glad I taught you a new phrase but you are using it incorrectly. Makes you seem even more uneducated, if that is possible.
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Old 01-18-2015, 06:37 PM
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I agree with you completely. Hilter got the Jew thing wrong, but he was a good guy with plenty of good ideas otherwise.
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