Get rid of LnS

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Following system is in place:

Defy LNS, take a week in the tank

Do it again, put in da tank for more than a week each time gets longer

Seems goog 2 me

I think that system is fine if it's enforced. But it's very hard to enforce the system as-is, particularly on a private server. This thread is proof of that.

I would much rather have a system that doesn't need to be enforced. As an analogy, think of it like falling damage. If players were responsible for keeping track of falling damage, and killing themselves if they took long falls, then many players would lie and try to cheat the system. Fortunately, the game manages the system for us, killing players who take distant falls, so no one needs to argue about it.

I think it would be better to have a system like that for PvP deaths and LNS.

[daasgoot]

one of the holo guys i killed last night attempted to call LNS in order to get out of being killed.

however, he was fully geared, just chillin in KC and his last pvp death was 22 hours prior to me engaging him.

how do you propose ppl that try to fake LNS get punished nirgon?

[Nirgon]

I think lies should be a suspension

Got prof?

Or lyin about someone lyin should also be a suspension

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think lies should be a suspension

Got prof?

Or lyin about someone lyin should also be a suspension

naw.

just wondering.

lets forget guild tags.

say a random person called LNS when they got attacked to try and avoid PVP.

what should that random person's punishment be. Also, how could you actually prove they had not been killed prior to you attacking them. Leaderboard cant be considered a legitimate source because it can be manipulated by the owner.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what should that random person's punishment be. Also, how could you actually prove they had not been killed prior to you attacking them. Leaderboard cant be considered a legitimate source because it can be manipulated by the owner.

You think the GMs go check the player made leaderboards when deciding on whether or not to suspend someone. I think this guy might actually be retarded.

[daasgoot]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think the GMs go check the player made leaderboards when deciding on whether or not to suspend someone. I think this guy might actually be retarded.

no.. reading comprehension would help you. I said leaderboard can't be used. So how would i as a player be able to submit any proof that someone called LNS but had not received a pvp death within an hour prior to the call.

go back to school.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no.. reading comprehension would help you. I said leaderboard can't be used. So how would i as a player be able to submit any proof that someone called LNS but had not received a pvp death within an hour prior to the call.

You need log files, etc. It can be done, but takes a lot of effort on the part of the player and the investigating DM. That's why I think it should be automated.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think lies should be a suspension

Got prof?

Or lyin about someone lyin should also be a suspension

Once again, I agree, but such investigations take a lot of time and effort. Realistically, the GMs can't investigate every claim, and are bound to make mistakes or have insufficient evidence from time to time. I don't think p1999 has the budget for full server logging, either, further complicating matters.

[Nirgon]

I don't have any problems with the current system and haven't had any run ins with "the law" myself over it.

I'm not sure what's hard to figure out unless you are absolutely hell bent on corpse camping people until they call LNS (.... why) or care so much about not calling LNS (....why) that you'd avoid calling it on a corpse run where you want to leave the zone after. I think its time to analyze the situations people are creating that cause the problem rather than rule lawyer it.

Just kill someone, let them loot their shit and move on.

My advice for coming to grips with the current system is learn some sportsmanship whether you are killed or killed someone else.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My advice for coming to grips with the current system is learn some sportsmanship whether you are killed or killed someone else.

Fantastic advice, but sadly not something we can force the playerbase to do. If cheating, griefing, corpse-camping, LNS abuse, etc are possible, we have to assume some players will do it.