Rules Lawyers: the Myconid Spore King

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why the fuck do we always have to break the law book out? 3 people are constantly killing whatever they're after for hours on end, why should you feel like it's your right to move in and take shit from them just because you have 6 people and can sit closer? I seriously don't understand the sense of inherent entitlement people feel they have here.

Oh, hey folks, I see you guys have been consistently killing this mob and are using your knowledge of pull/game mechanics to your advantage, but if you don't mind would you kindly go fuck yourself because me and my 5 friends are going to brute force this trivial encounter. THAT will surely show everybody who is right.

well said

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that depends: is your goal is to obtain pixels or play the game? Camping the king on his spawn point is a great deal of fun and by no means involves waiting around for 55/60 minutes.

I have done it this way and it is fun. I got an idea why don't you wait until the king is not camped and then bring your 6 people or w/e and kill on his spawn point. Why do you have to force people do do things a certain way just because you don't like them. Wait your turn like we do and then you can camp king however you want.

[Korben]

Originally Posted by bigsykedaddy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have done it this way and it is fun. I got an idea why don't you wait until the king is not camped and then bring your 6 people or w/e and kill on his spawn point. Why do you have to force people do do things a certain way just because you don't like them. Wait your turn like we do and then you can camp king however you want.

Yes but if they wait their turn for camps to open, their lawyer exp bar won't move, and they won't have any reason to clog up the petition queue with one sided and most likely false accounts of who did what first.

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes but if they wait their turn for camps to open, their lawyer exp bar won't move, and they won't have any reason to clog up the petition queue with one sided and most likely false accounts of who did what first.

Truth!

[Korben]

Originally Posted by bigsykedaddy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Truth!

Sarcasm off for a minute, I don't understand why a lot of these disputes can't be resolved simply by saying.. was someone else there before you? Yes. Were they killing the shit you wanted? Yes. Were you being a sneaky little shit head and/or trying to rule lawyer your way into stealing the shit someone else was camping? If yes, here's a ban for being a despicable turd.

[Ele]

This discussion has split into two different scenarios:

1. Does a second group have the right to "camp" closer to King and claim it, or force the first group to move closer, even though the first group is already using a train away/sneak pull method through jail to the tube room?

2. Does a tube room King group have the exclusive right to monopolize jail/LZO/shrooms even though they do not kill any of those mobs and can they prevent a second group from camping those mobs that the first group doesn't want killed?

2.5 Does the tube room King group that was there first have to change its train/pull strategy to avoid endangering a later arriving LZO group?

[Korben]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This discussion has split into two different scenarios:

1. Does a second group have the right to "camp" closer to King and claim it, or force the first group to move closer, even though the first group is already using a train away/sneak pull method through jail to the tube room?

2. Does a tube room King group have the exclusive right to monopolize jail/LZO/shrooms even though they do not kill any of those mobs and can they prevent a second group from camping those mobs that the first group doesn't want killed?

2.5 Does the tube room King group that was there first have to change its train/pull strategy to avoid endangering a later arriving LZO group?

My thoughts:

1: A group who does this is nothing but scum. It's camped, come back later.

2: People will argue both sides and I'm honestly conflicted, but one thing I am sure about is that killing the mobs just to cock block the tube group means you're a scumbag.

2.5: Again something that I doubt can be argued black and white, but I personally feel that if your arrival severely degrades or stops the primary goal of what another group is doing all together, perhaps as mature adults everyone involved should try to reach an agreement, usually I would hope that favors the group that was there originally.

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My thoughts:


2: People will argue both sides and I'm honestly conflicted, but one thing I am sure about is that killing the mobs just to cock block the tube group means you're a scumbag.

this. while it may be legitimate in the rules. there is virtually no reason as to why a group would move into that area just for exp mobs unless it was going for the king camp. dont even try to say that you want your chance at a cobalt bracer or something.

[Freakish]

Argument 2 is bad. Nobody kills jail / trash shrooms for fun/exp. You kill there because you can pull myconid spore king at the same time.
I would say anyone has the right to camp ilis jail / whatever mobs in the surrounding area as long as they are not being kept down. You would have no right to the king spawn. And you're an asshat because everyone involved knows you're only killing so you can rule lawyer another group out of the camp.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Argument 2 is bad. Nobody kills jail / trash shrooms for fun/exp. You kill there because you can pull myconid spore king at the same time.
I would say anyone has the right to camp ilis jail / whatever mobs in the surrounding area as long as they are not being kept down. You would have no right to the king spawn. And you're an asshat because everyone involved knows you're only killing so you can rule lawyer another group out of the camp.

The second scenario does not pull King, just the stuff tube King group is purposefully not killing.

Are we now judging legitimate camps by whether or not exp/loot is better in another location?