august 10th international day of protests to stop gaza massacres

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you might just not give a fuck about what the truth is, youve got your idea made up, probably the same ideas rolling around in your social circle and its easier to just do the same thing everybody else does and not be a black sheep.

Here's the difference. Other than perhaps the .01% of extremists, the majority of Jews I know would actually support a two state solution, would support Israeli Arabs, etc., if they weren't hell bent on exterminating every last Jew and foreigner. On the flip side, it is the stated goal of Hamas [who rules Gaza] to wipe Israel off the map and be part of the global Caliphate. How do you make peace with someone like that? Israel is a SECULAR country.

[Tradesonred]

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Here's the difference. Other than perhaps the .01% of extremists, the majority of Jews I know would actually support a two state solution, would support Israeli Arabs, etc., if they weren't hell bent on exterminating every last Jew and foreigner. On the flip side, it is the stated goal of Hamas [who rules Gaza] to wipe Israel off the map and be part of the global Caliphate. How do you make peace with someone like that? Israel is a SECULAR country.

Maybe then the grass could be cut under hamas' foot by not annexing parts of the west bank with that huge fence, killing so many civilians. We'll agree that terrorism not a wanted thing for anyone but i think Israeli government policy is very cynical in that by making the palestinians suffer so much you are kind of trying to push them into the arms of extremists. They then have pretexts to push further in, make more refugees, annex more land, etc... its truly utterly sad and the Israeli left is right in thinking on the long run this is a very dangerous path to be taking, its not making anyone "secure". Kind of how i feel about americans saying i should be happy as a canadian america is making us "secure".

[Tradesonred]

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

Psalm 137:9

All christians are bad amirite

[Tradesonred]

1 peter 2:18-20

"Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. 19 For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. 20 But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God."

Im now immune to any kind of criticism if i do violence upon random christians amirite

[Cheesypoof]

New testiment. sorry will edit post. Im not saying the jews are any better Ecoli.

[Tradesonred]

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)

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[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)

“This is what the Lord Almighty says... ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

‘Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.’ (Genesis 22:2)

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definitely have no interest in making this a protracted biblical debate here, particularly because many of these are stories / allegories, etc. But you do realize the third quote is the famous binding of Issac where the entire point was that God didn't actually want him to do it? The second quote is about Amalek a nation [factual or not] at least within the Biblical narrative who performed a "sneak attack" on the Jews.

[Tradesonred]

New testament

15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

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[heartbrand]

Ya here's the dif pal. You don't see Christian communities in 2014 stoning people who are cursing their parents in the public square. You do however see millions of Muslims in countries with Shariah law who do just that, with the full authority and weight of their government behind them.

[Clark]

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Ya here's the dif pal. You don't see Christian communities in 2014 stoning people who are cursing their parents in the public square. You do however see millions of Muslims in countries with Shariah law who do just that, with the full authority and weight of their government behind them.

They've always been whacko.