Really Getsome and IB ?

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hitpoint answers your question perfectly here,





this is the way things have been since FTE messages went in and FTE was king. none of this is new. and a lot of this is the reason i shit so hard on the class r guilds when the raid changes were happening, because if they made literally any effort, they could get mobs, by snagging fte and letting u all kill the mob for them. if you dont have FTE, its not your mob, period.

so does this mean raid ban for offending Ks'ers or just they get to skate on by doing it over and over again?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so does this mean raid ban for offending Ks'ers or just they get to skate on by doing it over and over again?

word, i'm pretty sure precedence has already been set on this back when FE killed a gorenaire that TMO had FTE on too.

[Daldaen]

Loraen doing big things with HS/King plat

[Swish]

Getsome confirmed scumbag.

Gets his cleric epic, then tries to "pull the ladder up" and get Ragefire moved to a far longer respawn.

Didn't read pg 2-12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Iandyan]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Getsome confirmed scumbag.

Gets his cleric epic, then tries to "pull the ladder up" and get Ragefire moved to a far longer respawn.

Didn't read pg 2-12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR version: It's "that time of the month" on Blue and everyone is on the same cycle.

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[Fael]

Earlier this week, IB pulled Phara Dar, lost FTE at the damn zoneline via charm, she shouted her FTE message at several different players until it ended up as TMO fte, and IB was forced to back down. This happened in a matter of seconds. They followed the yellow text and respected it. I

What amazes me is that they--and taken too--had over 5 minutes to make the correct decision--a decision they have proven they can make in a split second. Instead, as it turns out, 5 minutes is the perfect amount of time needed for two p99 guilds to collaborate and drum up a misguided justification for doing what they knew was wrong, without broadcasting their intent before hand, and under the most illogical of pretexts.

That IB had an unguilded mage with pet up on the Fay spawn point for hours before hand, shows how little respect they have for our gm's ability to wade through the BS. Its pretty insulting I would imagine.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Earlier this week, IB pulled Phara Dar, lost FTE at the damn zoneline via charm, she shouted her FTE message at several different players until it ended up as TMO fte, and IB was forced to back down. This happened in a matter of seconds. They followed the yellow text and respected it. I

What amazes me is that they--and taken too--had over 5 minutes to make the correct decision--a decision they have proven they can make in a split second. Instead, as it turns out, 5 minutes is the perfect amount of time needed for two p99 guilds to collaborate and drum up a misguided justification for doing what they knew was wrong, without broadcasting their intent before hand, and under the most illogical of pretexts.

That IB had an unguilded mage with pet up on the Fay spawn point for hours before hand, shows how little respect they have for our gm's ability to wade through the BS. Its pretty insulting I would imagine.

That was a biblical fte. It went from their puller, to their cleric, to a sitting monk (kingore or lazie, can't remember) in like half a second. Monk feigned and their cleric got charmed. I won a yunnb's earring. 5 stars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was a biblical fte. It went from their puller, to their cleric, to a sitting monk (kingore or lazie, can't remember) in like half a second. Monk feigned and their cleric got charmed. I won a yunnb's earring. 5 stars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their puller, to an IB cleric who just logged in and died, to Kloktor (tmo), to Kingore (tmo) where it stayed until the mob died.

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What amazes me is that they--and taken too--had over 5 minutes to make the correct decision--a decision they have proven they can make in a split second. Instead, as it turns out, 5 minutes is the perfect amount of time needed for two p99 guilds to collaborate and drum up a misguided justification for doing what they knew was wrong, without broadcasting their intent before hand, and under the most illogical of pretexts.

Hate to break it to you but Taken did not in any way engage that mob. Stop trying to drag Taken into this as though we "collaborated" with IB to take out your Fay. We stood back and watched IB kill it. Our only role in this is as witnesses who could corroborate through logs that the puller was not tagged one minute then tagged the next.

In my personal opinion, as long as it is proven that you guys didn't have more than 2 reps (guilded or unguilded) on the spawn at the time of FTE, it doesn't make a difference to me. It caused some confusion sure but we all learned from that experience and know what to do the next time something like this comes up.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to break it to you but Taken did not in any way engage that mob. Stop trying to drag Taken into this as though we "collaborated" with IB to take out your Fay. We stood back and watched IB kill it. Our only role in this is as witnesses who could corroborate through logs that the puller was not tagged one minute then tagged the next.

In my personal opinion, as long as it is proven that you guys didn't have more than 2 reps (guilded or unguilded) on the spawn at the time of FTE, it doesn't make a difference to me. It caused some confusion sure but we all learned from that experience and know what to do the next time something like this comes up.

Originally Posted by willestargell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken was also present. We submitted a petition and logs in support. We agree with the IB position that FTE by a non-tagged alt is BS. The puller then was guild tagged mid-pull, died, and there's no way to know who might have gotten FTE after in such a situation. We felt at the time that it was a "trap" intended to get others in trouble.

Taken agrees that TMO should be excluded from this loot. Taken and IB are in agreement as to what disposition of the loot should be. (currently the loot is in IB's hands but we will split when a transfer is available, as one of their groups got the exp and looted)