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[Kagatob]

You can't come up with something better than that? This is a joke, you aren't even trying any more.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wants to poopsock so bad.

What's the repop time of pofear trash?

[Fael]

As a bard who has kited fear hundreds of times, I would actually prefer the guild to be at the traditional west wall spot. The more south the better.

You shouldn't have issues pulling mobs by them. Normally you wouldn't need to go south of the portal but for the first 1-2 passes.

Yibz's corpse is up by the fiend house. Not sure how long after the train the DT occured or where exactly A-Team was.

Dolic

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's the repop time of pofear trash?

If you are asking this in the year 2014... then you have most likely never raided in everquest.

[Visual]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the mob spawns and you are clearing in that zone, you can't engage.

I can't even follow what's going on here anymore

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a silly map.
West Wall is a common break-in area. Telling guilds not to setup there when CT is up is stupid IMO.
Clearing is FAR more classic than kiting shit.

i constantly hear EQ is not hard, and then i see people mad cause they dont know what they are doing in fear. heres a protip, breaking at the west wall is for noobs. run to the north wall where only 1 mob paths and omg avoid all the kiting which is how we did it on live. its like sitting at the MM zoneline and QQing about the trains. sitting in the exact spot of the kite and being like OMG HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN, WHY ME WHY NOW.
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[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i constantly hear EQ is not hard, and then i see people mad cause they dont know what they are doing in fear. heres a protip, breaking at the west wall is for noobs. run to the north wall where only 1 mob paths and omg avoid all the kiting which is how we did it on live. its like sitting at the MM zoneline and QQing about the trains. sitting in the exact spot of the kite and being like OMG HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN, WHY ME WHY NOW.
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That's only a pro-tip if you are planning an engage under the previous rule set. West wall is better for pulling mobs that drop desired planar armor sets. In a north wall break you have to clear the nightmares and other garbage that isn't conducive to planar farming.

MM is not a raid zone and as such is incomparable.

I'm not sure why both Sirken and Derubael are defending this sort of action when it has already been ruled out of line. Not the first situation I could have pointed that out in. I wouldn't mind hearing from other GMs that rarely come out of the woodwork on what they take away from this situation and their ideas of resolution. I don't think saying "omg don't go ww nub" is very productive to getting a matter like this resolved.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

defending this sort of action

Originally Posted by Derubael

I never said his ruling was wrong. Rogean never said you can't kite the zone. A-team definitely got trained. Kiters should definitely be more aware of whats going on just like guilds in fear when CT is up should also be aware of what's going on.

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[Troubled]

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Yet, you spent the entirety of the rest of your posts pasting maps showing how AT was in the wrong spot. They were fine and TMO needed to work around that, that's all.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's only a pro-tip if you are planning an engage under the previous rule set. West wall is better for pulling mobs that drop desired planar armor sets. In a north wall break you have to clear the nightmares and other garbage that isn't conducive to planar farming.

MM is not a raid zone and as such is incomparable.

I'm not sure why both Sirken and Derubael are defending this sort of action when it has already been ruled out of line. Not the first situation I could have pointed that out in. I wouldn't mind hearing from other GMs that rarely come out of the woodwork on what they take away from this situation and their ideas of resolution. I don't think saying "omg don't go ww nub" is very productive to getting a matter like this resolved.

thats a protip period. if youre on the west wall youre probably doing it wrong. because again, theres at least 4 mobs that path over the west wall by port in, and the zone gets kited in the SW corner to engage CT. if this server was a ghost town, or if this was instanced crapbutt, then you could go to fear and do whatever you want for as long as you want. if you decide you only want to play on the west wall, and then CT spawns, you can either move out of the way, or, you can stay there and get yourself trained.

i understand it's probably past your bedtime, you're probably pretty sleepy and need a nap, so i'll save you the task of having to spend more than 30 seconds thinking about something before you post some kind of moronic comment like MM is not a raid zone. no shit MM is not a raid zone, that was not the comparison that was being made. the comparison was that kids who cry about getting social aggro from the kites because they are in the SW corner of the zone deserve their fate for being dumber than a bag of rocks, just like kids that hang out at the MM zoneline who complain about constant training in MM are also dumber than a bag of rocks and deserve their fate.

lastly, you said you dont know why myself and deru are defending actions that have been ruled out of line. Where in the history of the server was it ever stated that players where not allowed to kite the fear trash out of the way? exactly. because that's not a thing, but please feel free to continue to just make shit up if you feel it will help your argument. and to be clear, it's a perfectly legit strat that has existed on live servers since at least kunark. i'm sincerely sorry that you did it wrong all those years ago, but luckily i'm here to enlighten you.

and yes at the end of the day saying "omg don't go ww nub" is exactly what some people need to hear, because they apparently have no damned idea what they are doing in plane of fear yet, and then they complain and petition about other guilds when they get wiped due to stupidity and a severe lack of understanding how the zone works.


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