The idea that will save the server(for u fecal)

[Kraftwerk]

I agree with Heartbrand, the core problem is that Nihilum has amassed a far greater number of neck beard lifers.

I also agree with Heartbrand in that there would be an improvement for the opposing guild from Nihilum getting 100% of raid mobs to Nihilum getting 95% of raid mobs.

[RoguePhantom]

No. Problem is that they have shit on farm status.

Its not like they have people on randomly to lock stuff down, its the fact that EVERYTHING spawns on Sunday. Now, if things were random and they had everything locked down... awesome, well done by them.

But its not, its a static spawn when you can basically sit there and be in position for a pop.

[heartbrand]

It takes you guys hours just to buff and port to a spot to pvp, how the fuck will you ever track mobs 24/7 against tune / rallyd etc and then bat phone and mobilize 20+ people for a target before nihilum? And when you all quit again, which you will, it will be a single guild box again except now with variance that will serve no purpose other than to drain any remaining fun out of the box.

Just accept it, much like TMO you will never be able to contest nihilum with variance. Variance will actually ensure that you almost never get mobs. I actually thought a bit more about this. With the current set pops you have a real shot at planning ahead and out mobilizing nihilum to a target like you did at VS and trak in the past. With variance you're basically playing into nihilums greatest strength: a willing army of neck beards waiting for the bat phone text sitting in team speak ready to go.

Just look at the 10 am patch last week. The bat phone went out and within minutes we were close to 20+. Be careful what you wish for, because variance will very likely fuck you guys. Again, you aren't really asking for more pvp you're asking for a shot at uncontested mobs, because variance will basically guarantee you guys never contest a mob again with rare exceptions.

[RoguePhantom]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It takes you guys hours just to buff and port to a spot to pvp, how the fuck will you ever track mobs 24/7 against tune / rallyd etc and then bat phone and mobilize 20+ people for a target before nihilum? And when you all quit again, which you will, it will be a single guild box again except now with variance that will serve no purpose other than to drain any remaining fun out of the box.

Just accept it, much like TMO you will never be able to contest nihilum with variance. Variance will actually ensure that you almost never get mobs. I actually thought a bit more about this. With the current set pops you have a real shot at planning ahead and out mobilizing nihilum to a target like you did at VS and trak in the past. With variance you're basically playing into nihilums greatest strength: a willing army of neck beards waiting for the bat phone text sitting in team speak ready to go.

Just look at the 10 am patch last week. The bat phone went out and within minutes we were close to 20+. Be careful what you wish for, because variance will very likely fuck you guys. Again, you aren't really asking for more pvp you're asking for a shot at uncontested mobs, because variance will basically guarantee you guys never contest a mob again with rare exceptions.

Ok you idiot; Its not the fact that they CAN do it again.

Its more to the point that it adds even the glimmer of hope to the server that they can compete.

Sure, MOST of the time, Nihi will find a mob up, go wipe it and log back off. Again, WELL DONE by them. No one is saying they expect this NOT to happen.

All people want it the opportunity to spot a mob up, send out some texts/whatever and try to beat Nihi to the punch. Or when two mobs are up at the same time, they ninja one, other people get the other one. Instead of raid targets going down like dominoes, one right after another, they go down together.

[heartbrand]

I would argue there's quite a few people in your guild who don't want to just snipe mobs, they want to pvp for mobs. There's also some irony to calling me an idiot while ignoring my point which was that its my belief variance would actually REDUCE your shot at mobs. Kringe has shown in the past with proper advance planning you guys are capable of contesting. What the past has also shown is that with patches aka, randomly popping mobs, you guys lack the ability to mobilize in time to contest anything. It's ok though faggot you're secretly arguing for the very thing that will ensure your guild dies.

[heartbrand]

P.s there already is mob overlap on Sunday and you guys even with advance notice of when mobs pop STILL can't contest. Now that might change with the merge and more members (though you still lack a Kringe type leader), but it sure isn't changing with variance. You guys going to have multiple people in EJ / SF / KC / TD / Hate? You can barely even track anymore, I guarantee if this goes in there will be a drive to roll ranger alts in nihilum and dkp awarded for sitting in all of these zones 24/7. Variance was supposed to save blue as well, and yet all it has done has actually solidified TMO's ability to hold down 95% of all mobs.

Listen I get it, I also want competition, it's why I considered variance at one point. But if you critically think about it you'll see that its fools gold. You guys say over and over how bad nihilum is at pvp. Now with the merge and some leveling you'll have the chance to prove that on the battlefield and take the mobs. Variance will give you basically no shot of that as your members come home from work or wake up to find out that another mob was killed by nihilum. You're playing right into our greatest strength.

p.s. look how variance helped blue and LoZ. Look at variance in the history of other games like EQ and EQ/. All it does is burn everyone out except the ones with the most neckbeards. No better way to kill the server than this.

[Kraftwerk]

I would love to pvp for mobs, I was there during the recent heyday in Feb-Apr and the mass pvp was great. Real talk time, Nihilum recruited and people joined for pixels. Opposition numbers dwindled and the odds of us ever putting up the same numbers we had in that Mar-Apr period are slim. I mean you guys had 34 people in an uncontested PoSky last night, wtf do you think happens when it's a real target.

Don't omit the #'s part of this as if its balanced. And even balanced doesn't work due to y'all having every possible good item(I'm not saying lolVP gear, just good gear) from playing so long, so in reality we would need 110-120% of your force since ours is half sub 60 patched together gear. All that being said, I'll never join Nihilum and I'm glad to be back and tagged with good folks like Agatha, Lite, Brobb and Sektor even Dickpuppy to fight Nilly. I feel dirty typing out a HB length essay on this topic, but you keep omitting #'s as if its just our skill(which could also improve - ex: I'm terrible) preventing us from pvping for dragons.

[GrobbGangsta]

Serious pixel frenzy going on in this thread.

Nobody cares about your double digit geared alt. Why are yall so terrified of competition

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious pixel frenzy going on in this thread.

Nobody cares about your double digit geared alt. Why are yall so terrified of competition

Well with an argument like that I have been convinced, variance will increase competition, sign me up. You should run for politics sir I'm sure you could end gridlock there as well with your stellar logic and argumentation.

[GrobbGangsta]

The only thing Nihilum quadruple posts about is pixel retention, and I see a lot of quadruple posting up in here. Pixel frenzy is the natural conclusion. Ease up bro.

Sorry your feeble Maryland law mind cannot grasp basic logic.