HBB was this you?

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, yeah. Mental illness can diminish the ability to consent.

People with multiple personalities aren't allowed to have sex. Check.

[gotrocks]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, serious question: if you found a baby in a toilet, would you dry it off before you fucked it?

turtle wtf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Barkingturtle]

Bitch don't get cute with me I will hit you.

[Kagatob]

Did I give you consent to touch me? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Barkingturtle]

I know, right? Of course you dry it off! That's toilet water and it's nasty!


Honestly though, how infrequent must intercourse be that the drunken consent thing is even an issue for you dudes? The simple fact is yes, there is a double standard. As men, we are typically more capable of forcing sex on women than they are upon us. We err therefore on caution's side--on the more vulnerable party's side--as we often do in society. If you're unwilling to accept that responsibility and self-restraint, you are not a man. You are a dog, but you're not even that good--because a dog can lick it's own boner.

[Alawen]

Straw man after straw man after straw man. We have one piece of evidence in this entire conversation, and that's the post from the woman (emphasis mine):

"Today, I woke up hung over next to a boy I hope i never see again. Last night I fell asleep drunk next to my best friend who I've been in love with for nearly a year. I'm talking about the same boy... who I thought wasn't like every other boy. I thought I could trust him. Under the influence, he proved me wrong. MMT"

This is the only relevant testimony. Everything else is specious. She fell asleep drunk next to her best friend. If we had conflicting testimony from the male in question, we would have a legitimate reason to doubt her story. With no other evidence, it would be unreasonable to make a judgment. Our legal system is based on the principle of innocence until proven guilty. Under our laws, condemning the man would be unjust.

We don't have that. What we have are a bunch of reactive voices making empty claims based on nothing. They happily add detail from imagination. They label their speculation as common sense and logic, but dressing up an invented phrase does not make it a fact. The reactive voices want to blame a rape victim for her own rape based on no evidence whatsoever.

That's rape culture and these are rape apologists.

[gotrocks]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reactive voices want to blame a rape victim for her own rape based on no evidence whatsoever.

That's rape culture and these are rape apologists.

I guess I must have just skimmed over the rest of the thread, but who's making this claim....?

What bothers me is that you (and by you i mean the opposing voice in this argument) seem to think that anything with a dick accused of rape is clearly guilty and every case is black and white when there is a lot of grey area in this matter.

Rape is rape is rape is rape is simply not true, each case is different and unique, and just because the female is crying rape doesn't necessarily make it true.

[Hasbinbad]

getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.

Wow. I love you.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

getting cis white dudes to admit rape culture is generally as difficult as getting cis white dudes to admit white privilege or heteronormativity or patriarchy.

I admit to all three and I think all three are fantastic.

There always has to be a winner.