My anti-military thread..

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if the hypothetical situation came up where i was ordered by a higher ranking officer to just "kill" someone who did attack me first or even if they did, no i would not have to do it.

Even if those orders conform to the UCOMJ?

[Hasbinbad]

I think you take an oath or something that directly contradicts what you're saying right now.

[Hasbinbad]

Do you not take your oath seriously?

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you take an oath or something that directly contradicts what you're saying right now.

I also didn't believe in the "under god" part when I was told to recite the pledge of allegiance in 3rd grade, did I do it? Yes. Did I agree with the general principle of the Pledge? Yes.

But this isn't some movie or fairy tale where people ignore common sense or humanity over some Oath or Pledge.

The oath is a tradition, an archaic one imo at that. If I get told to slaughter some one for no fucking reason I'm not going to do it.

If you believe most people in the military would then you are naive or gullible, people don't magically lose their common sense because they enlist in the military.

[SamwiseRed]

actually it is a soldiers responsibility to do what is right legally or morally. if an officer is giving you a wrongful order, you have the right to refuse. soldiers != lemmings.

[SamwiseRed]

i think some people in this thread base the military off of movies, lawl

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Tippett [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people don't magically lose their common sense because they enlist in the military.

Then explain Abu Ghraib

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[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually it is a soldiers responsibility to do what is right legally or morally. if an officer is giving you a wrongful order, you have the right to refuse. soldiers != lemmings.

What if the order is rightful?

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think some people in this thread base the military off of movies, lawl

yeah seems that way sam, we are all knights bound by oath ordered to murder innocent freedom fighters by george bush

we are forced into knighthood because of our lazy and evil ways, and we all have huge senses of entitlement

not sure if this all is srs or dum

[Tippett]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then explain Abu Ghraib]

they didnt lose common sense, they never had any

i also highly doubt they were "ordered to do that"

they where wut i referenced earlier "handful of retards out of millions"

didnt those guys all get kicked out btw?