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We were talking about Sebilis silly, where most mobs dont summon. Either you didn't read or you are pivoting to avoid the point.
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This dudes boner for the shaman class has completely drained his brain of blood and is no longer capable of rational thought
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Yup, all of these level 60 mages have NO bias whatsoever[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Math isn't biased[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Yet again you can't counter my points with logic and evidence, so name calling is all you have. Its sad.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 08-20-2022 at 05:01 PM..
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Maybe someplace like Charasis would've been a better location for that sort of thing? Danth | |||
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Raise your hand if you want to be in a group with some idiot shaman root rotting 4 mobs at a time to make his epic click do respectable damage?
Or you could just group with a mage that does as much/more without all the bullshit. Or better yet just get another enchanter that does like 3x as much dmg with another charm pet. It's fucking insane how far you're reaching to try to shoehorn your dumb class into this hypothetical "whos the best 4 caster group" question. Literally everyone knows you're wrong and you've made like 150 posts saying pure nonsense trying to argue otherwise.
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You've shown how much dps a shaman can do when there are 4-5 mobs in camp and they are allowed to just sit there and hit full epic duration time after time. This is an effective way for a shaman to solo, but you don't even see this happening when shaman's duo. You're usually just focusing down 1 mob at a time and being careful more times than not at what you bring in, especially with super high level content. The hole for instance could easily be a wipe if you get 2-3 nasty golems. The same goes for this group of 4 situation. There's no point to attempt to bring that many mobs in at once, and let them sit there over and over again so the shaman can do more dps, hehe. It's an unnecessary risk especially when fighting mobs that lvl 60s actually care about, lol. Even seb mobs can get nasty once you get past 3 of them. As myself & Danth already pointed out, most situations you will just eventually run out of mobs too. Shaman's are a more superior overall class than a mage, but what mages do well, they do really well. This particular scenario is one that they are built for when you have an enchanter/cleric that can cover what a shaman brings to the table. So sorry, everyone will be enjoying the superior mage dps while your shaman will be sitting there on the baseball field not getting picked for either team of pure casters. | |||
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You don't need to have every class to know how the math of the game works, or how classes interact in groups. We were talking about Sebilis, because that is where Troxx got his DPS logs from. As a Shaman I am often times fighting 3-4 mobs down there at a time, because that's how the agro works. I can do this consistently, which means you can do it in a group too. I am sorry that people don't want to play this way, but that doesn't mean you would exclude a Shaman due to lack of DPS in Sebilis. They could match a Mage's DPS if the group wanted it, plus all the additional utility that they have and a Mage does not. You need to show situations where a Mage is superior over a Shaman. So far the Sebilis example doesn't work, as my Shaman could match the high end DPS of a Mage down there. The math will remain the same, regardless of how you feel. Also, it is silly to say "you could run out of mobs". That would also be the case if you DPS too fast with the Enchanter/Mage Pets lol. The killspeed is the same if I am matching DPS. This should be a no brainer. Quote:
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 08-20-2022 at 05:48 PM..
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I honestly can't believe you're actually trying to make this dipshit argument.
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The math doesn't say this, you need to show logs where a Mage could out DPS a Shaman. So far the Sebilis example doesn't work. Your play experience is irrelevant if you are wrong. Just because people prefer to play one way, doesn't mean other ways aren't as efficient lol. Math-wise the efficiency is the same. You are also assuming Troxx was doing 157 DPS most of the time. He said before his high-end is with nuking, which isn't sustainable. We still need the logs to know what his real average is. My guess is it's decently lower.
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 08-20-2022 at 05:57 PM..
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Can we get an epic mage with pet focus to post some parses and shut this moron up please?
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