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Old 10-16-2020, 09:34 AM
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Exactly. These people need to take their conspiracy political nonsense back to the only thread it is allowed to exist in.

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Old 10-16-2020, 03:54 AM
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Trump knew back then, so did the CDC. He’s just politicized this the whole way through thinking he could get lucky and keep the stock market afloat, and it wouldn’t reach America

Sadly, he was obviously wrong because he doesn’t understand enough science to figure out how a respiratory pandemic would spread. More importantly, he could’ve simply been a leader to the american people. “I know it’s hard to do something out of fear as an American, but we really don’t know how bad this will be yet and so I ask you, my fellow countrymen, to wear a mask and do your utmost to protect your family.”

That’s all it would’ve took. But instead, in the first era of human existence where we had the capability to fight a pandemic, we didn’t. And many of you still refuse to even acknowledge the efficacy of a mask. Which isn’t the point. The point is it would’ve made half of your neighbors and friends more comfortable to do it (meaning the economy might be in better shape) but you couldn’t, because somewhere along the way you guys really lost Jesus Christ. I hope you find him again.
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:53 AM
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Trump knew back then, so did the CDC. He’s just politicized this the whole way through thinking he could get lucky and keep the stock market afloat, and it wouldn’t reach America

Sadly, he was obviously wrong because he doesn’t understand enough science to figure out how a respiratory pandemic would spread. More importantly, he could’ve simply been a leader to the american people. “I know it’s hard to do something out of fear as an American, but we really don’t know how bad this will be yet and so I ask you, my fellow countrymen, to wear a mask and do your utmost to protect your family.”

That’s all it would’ve took. But instead, in the first era of human existence where we had the capability to fight a pandemic, we didn’t. And many of you still refuse to even acknowledge the efficacy of a mask. Which isn’t the point. The point is it would’ve made half of your neighbors and friends more comfortable to do it (meaning the economy might be in better shape) but you couldn’t, because somewhere along the way you guys really lost Jesus Christ. I hope you find him again.
PS: Donald trump is obese
Please share what you think he knew. Also share what other nations did to combat this that is so much better?
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:54 AM
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Trump was asked about Qanon. He wouldn't say that the democrats weren't Satanic worshipping pedophiles.
That's because they are (of course, so are the Republicans). Have you read the list of politicians connected to Epstein? And those are only the ones we know about! Satanists and pedophiles are perfect candidates for middle management: they are willing to mercilessly oppress the general population and they can be easily blackmailed.

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Humans seem to have some sort of ingrained instinct to favor desirable lies over unwanted truth
Exactly! By the way, this isn't just some other person's problem. There were about 6 months in 2019 where I really thought Q was legit. This is the problem with psychology PhDs: they can weave a very convincing story! After all, the Democrats are satanists and pedophiles. The media does constantly attack Trump. But at this point I'm fairly sure Q is the NSA.

The big flaw in Q's illusion is his message: sit back and watch the show. If you think about it, only individual Americans could make America great again. Trump is an elderly, rather overweight, man. He can only ask us to do things. But the idea that he can clean up this mess without us having to get off our couches is so incredibly convenient that when combined with a bit of truth it's very persuasive.

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I assume your posts are bad faith/intentional trolling so I respond for other's benefit and/or amusement.
The sad fact of the matter is that there are some 20% of Americans whose existence is totally bound up in the current state of affairs. Some of them are hopeless social services leeches. Others are part of the propaganda apparatus. Yet others are addicted to the feeling of preaching. I don't know whether Pretzelle is one of those or a random Chinese gold farmer. But these people will actively fight any sort of solution. Perhaps some sort of California quarantine . . .

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The most revered science magazines decided it's enough with the anti-science and alternative facts to endorse Biden
I skimmed the first article. It is more COVID hysteria. The idea that anyone needs a plan to deal with THE FLU is ridiculous. Guess what: people do not live forever. The average American COVID victim is 75 with multiple health conditions. Their average life expectancy is some 5 years. Even if we took the doctored COVID stats at face value, 200,000 * 5 * 365 / 300000000 = 1.2, meaning that the average American has lost ONE DAY of life to COVID. Personally I think the whole thing is a complete fraud, but I don't even need to make that argument because the official narrative on COVID is that fucking stupid.

Remember Orwell's 'doublethink'? Magazines like Scientific American are actually anti science. There really isn't much difference between the average Catholic peon of the Medieval period and the average modern peon quoting 'Science' and taking his vaccines.

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And many of you still refuse to even acknowledge the efficacy of a mask
That's because masks don't work. Not only are there loads of studies that prove this, but there is no logical reason why they should work, as viruses are thousands of times smaller than even N95 surgical mask holes. It's like trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence.

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Which isn’t the point. The point is it would’ve made half of your neighbors and friends more comfortable to do it
Ah yes, if your neighbor is jumping off a cliff you should follow him like a good little lemming. Besides, doesn't this argument work just as well in the other direction?

Gatmanno really nailed it when he said you worship Mammon. You're a lot less obvious than Pretzelle.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:16 AM
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That's because they are (of course, so are the Republicans). Have you read the list of politicians connected to Epstein? And those are only the ones we know about! Satanists and pedophiles are perfect candidates for middle management: they are willing to mercilessly oppress the general population and they can be easily blackmailed.



Exactly! By the way, this isn't just some other person's problem. There were about 6 months in 2019 where I really thought Q was legit. This is the problem with psychology PhDs: they can weave a very convincing story! After all, the Democrats are satanists and pedophiles. The media does constantly attack Trump. But at this point I'm fairly sure Q is the NSA.

The big flaw in Q's illusion is his message: sit back and watch the show. If you think about it, only individual Americans could make America great again. Trump is an elderly, rather overweight, man. He can only ask us to do things. But the idea that he can clean up this mess without us having to get off our couches is so incredibly convenient that when combined with a bit of truth it's very persuasive.



The sad fact of the matter is that there are some 20% of Americans whose existence is totally bound up in the current state of affairs. Some of them are hopeless social services leeches. Others are part of the propaganda apparatus. Yet others are addicted to the feeling of preaching. I don't know whether Pretzelle is one of those or a random Chinese gold farmer. But these people will actively fight any sort of solution. Perhaps some sort of California quarantine . . .



I skimmed the first article. It is more COVID hysteria. The idea that anyone needs a plan to deal with THE FLU is ridiculous. Guess what: people do not live forever. The average American COVID victim is 75 with multiple health conditions. Their average life expectancy is some 5 years. Even if we took the doctored COVID stats at face value, 200,000 * 5 * 365 / 300000000 = 1.2, meaning that the average American has lost ONE DAY of life to COVID. Personally I think the whole thing is a complete fraud, but I don't even need to make that argument because the official narrative on COVID is that fucking stupid.

Remember Orwell's 'doublethink'? Magazines like Scientific American are actually anti science. There really isn't much difference between the average Catholic peon of the Medieval period and the average modern peon quoting 'Science' and taking his vaccines.



That's because masks don't work. Not only are there loads of studies that prove this, but there is no logical reason why they should work, as viruses are thousands of times smaller than even N95 surgical mask holes. It's like trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence.


Ah yes, if your neighbor is jumping off a cliff you should follow him like a good little lemming. Besides, doesn't this argument work just as well in the other direction?

Gatmanno really nailed it when he said you worship Mammon. You're a lot less obvious than Pretzelle.
Zodium is a Marxist who has extolled the virtues of mao killing the landlords in China. And I worship mammon?

The point is that people don’t have confidence in going out because they’re afraid. Leadership might’ve mitigated that. Procedures for minimizing infection certainly would’ve. China, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea are open for business

We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:41 AM
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We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!
Take that, shape it into a nice cone shape.. then sit on it.
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The point is that people don’t have confidence in going out because they’re afraid. Leadership might’ve mitigated that. Procedures for minimizing infection certainly would’ve. China, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea are open for business

We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!
I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

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So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?
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I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

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So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?
Which individual EU countries are experiencing the largest increases in Covid diagnoses?
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:48 AM
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I wouldn't compare US to Asia. The cultures and peoples couldn't possibly be more different. Compare US to EU instead.

Effects of lockdown compliance (including virtue-signaling but nearly-useless measures like mask-wearing for the healthy):

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So let's look back.

Coronavirus comes on strong in March and April. Both EU and US announce lockdown measures. The Europeans comply like the good order-followers they are. The US, not so much since we have a system where every governor gets to ignore any federal orders as they please. Some states like New York and New Jersey imprison everyone inside but other states are defiant.

So June comes and the EU folks are all locked down and the US people are starting to really get tired of it and start breaking the rules even more. The US infection rate spikes...then starts to go lower at precisely the same time the EU rate starts to go up. That's weird right? Like the EU has been following the rules completely!

Then in September the lines nearly meet, then they both start trending up because the weather is getting colder and the traditional flu season is just around the corner. But the US rate is much lower and also not trending at the same rate. What is going on? Why are the non-mask wearing rule-breaking Americans doing better than the Europeans?
Put strong restrictions in place, do better than US. Lesson restrictions, EU gets as bad as US. Is this suppose to be revelatory? Not to mention the US and EU aren't monoliths but a patchwork of responses. My state is has some of the lowest rates in the US, we're doing a really good job keeping cases down and are about half the US per capita rate. Germany's numbers are about 1/3 of my state and makes us look like we have no clue what the fuck we're doing. But EU bad right?
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Old 10-16-2020, 11:20 AM
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We should be too, but rednecks won’t wear masks for their country. SAD!
I guess you missed those images and recordings of Nancy Pelosi, Andrew Cuomo and Jim Acosta all strutting around in public without their masks on.

I'm sure that's Trump's fault somehow too!
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