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[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is no willingness to bend a little as a smaller guy, you're going to have a bad time.

TMO is the most recent guild to find this out. We had about a dozen of them come over from Blue and join up with us, raid, get loot, have some fun, etc. A good majority of them left our guild when TMO started up, and everything was pretty cordial. We were talking amongst ourselves about feeding TMO some dragons/ discounted epics from our guild bank that we didn't particularly want.

Then: Good Guys falls apart.

Naturally, many of the players we deemed scummy are now looking for a place to go and lots attempt to get into Empire. They're denied. Lots apply to TMO. These are the same players that we literally just worked to eradicate by annihilating Good Guys. In an effort to warn TMO, we advise them, quite strongly, not to accept these people into their guild, because accepting those people translates badly to our members as harboring the server's scum, and it not only would leave a bad taste in our mouth, but would incite a lot of grief. Those people we advised against were considered poison to guilds/ the server. TMO accepts them anyway, against our wishes.

Consequently: TMO is smashed into the dirt all day everyday for months leading up to Velious.

On day 1 of Velious, the exact group of people we advised TMO leadership not to take in as guildies all go anonymous and raid Kunark dragons while their fellow guild members/ leadership are left with 30 people in rags trying to get Derakor down. They wipe over and over.

TMO's leadership finally gets it, and they send our leadership tells, "just so you know, we kicked out all the ex- Good Guys people you hate" as if that would give them an insta-pardon.

Translation: Even though Empire has some of the worst toxics ever to grace the box on its roster, if you dont agree with excommunicating players less toxic than yours off the box forever, which in itself is representative of how toxic empire is, we will crush you with numbers and gear gap.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Translation: Even though Empire has some of the worst toxics ever to grace the box on its roster, if you dont agree with excommunicating players less toxic than yours off the box forever, which in itself is representative of how toxic empire is, we will crush you with numbers and gear gap.

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[Colgate]

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

[keysmash]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

Nice attitude. Enjoy having an empty server.

[JayN]

make shit classic

YT's and global chat need to go


VERY NOT CLASSIC, encourages grieving and harassment

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing I would like to point out is that any new guild leader that has tried to step up has been bashed on the forums by elements within Empire. For example, look at the up and coming guild leader Gardur, who has recently formed 'Casual Scum'. He made a plea for his friends that went to Empire to come join his guild for fun and was bashed in his thread and is still being bashed in his guild recruitment thread.

The below quote is an example of Empire leadership posting destructive criticism, much similar to what I was complaining about regarding Red server culture. Do note also, I have attempted to provide a well-versed counter argument to Buhbuh's post unlike the below poster who has decided to make a personal attack.

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm sorry that us clearing PvE content is griefing you off the box, drakar

[am0n]

That sounds wonderful. "Want to have a good time on Red? Sure! Just learn to suck dick first."

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by am0n [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sounds wonderful. "Want to have a good time on Red? Sure! Just learn to suck dick first."

i guess you enter the office and start sucking your employers dick?

since you obviously think that's the only way to be respectful?

whatever works for you i guess

[Swish]

What's this thread doing here?

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's this thread doing here?

new threads are overrated

its not like there is anything left that hasn't been discussed so get that bumpage going