Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He then removed the ranks entirely ... I am still not sure why he thinks that was the correct course of action.

You know exactly why, because I've told you point blank: the wiki is for "encyclopedia-like" content. Throughout it's decade-plus life (ie. since long before I got here), personal opinions have always been limited to Magelos and guide pages (ie. pages with someone's name in them).

Loraen's guide page, with rankings, remains in the wiki; it's a "named page". The (un-named) "Solo Artist Challenge" page will (like everything else in the wiki) only feature content that has a communal consensus.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know exactly why, because I've told you point blank. The wiki is for "encyclopedia-like" content. Throughout it's decade-plus life (ie. since long before I got here), personal opinions have always been limited to Magelos and guide pages (ie. pages with someone's name in them).

Loraen's guide page, with rankings, remains in the wiki because it's a "named page". The "Solo Artist Challenge" page, with no name, will (like everything else in the wiki) only feature content that is a communal consensus (eg. no one fights when someone edits a mob entry to have the correct number of hit points, because it's similarly "neutral" content).

Trolling the wiki is against the rules. Multiple posters in this thread, including myself and OP, agree Zuranthium and Samoht were editing the wiki in bad faith. There is no reason for you to keep their changes, lock the wiki page with their changes, prevent other people from editing their changes, and then unilaterally modifying a years old wiki page to remove a key component of it (rankings).

It is mind boggling you take the side of Zuranthium at every turn. Zuranthium wrote a Star Trek/Everquest/Game of Thrones fan fic that describes violently torturing OP specifically for the "crime" of having 3 outside buffs on a solo challenge. This is unhinged behavior.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

Community-wise more people disagree with Zuranthium and Samoht anyway:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=1019

I forgot to include The_Ber from this thread, and the creator of the wiki page obviously agrees outside buffs are allowed on melees. So it's like 8 people for Zuranthium's changes vs. 12 people against from my count so far.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[loramin]

I'd answer this, but you don't bother to read my answers when I do provide them, so it feels pointless to do so.

(Also, I have already answered this, and you have demonstrated no desire to read or try to understand my answer.)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd answer this, but you don't bother to read my answers when I do provide them, so it feels pointless to do so.

(Also, I have already answered this, and you have demonstrated no desire to read or try to understand my answer.)

I have read your answers and responded to them. The post history shows this. The post history also shows you have contradicted yourself multiple times and dodged my responses multiple times. You dodged this last post too:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trolling the wiki is against the rules. Multiple posters in this thread, including myself and OP, agree Zuranthium and Samoht were editing the wiki in bad faith. There is no reason for you to keep their changes, lock the wiki page with their changes, prevent other people from editing their changes, and then unilaterally modifying a years old wiki page to remove a key component of it (rankings).

It is mind boggling you take the side of Zuranthium at every turn. Zuranthium wrote a Star Trek/Everquest/Game of Thrones fan fic that describes violently torturing OP specifically for the "crime" of having 3 outside buffs on a solo challenge. This is unhinged behavior.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

Community-wise more people disagree with Zuranthium and Samoht anyway:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...postcount=1019

I forgot to include The_Ber from this thread, and the creator of the wiki page obviously agrees outside buffs are allowed on melees. So it's like 8 people for Zuranthium's changes vs. 12 people against from my count so far.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

You didn't even respond to the current community count where more people disagree with Zuranthium and Samoht anyway. Yet another contradiction to add to the pile. You say this is community consensus driven, while ignoring the community and unilaterally editing the page yourself.

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, wow. This is some victim complex. We did it just to harm you. Right.

We did it because it was outdated and needed fixing. You are completely unrelated to the changes except you brought them up as needing changes. So thank you for that.

The rest of this is just you being a cry baby lashing out because you're unable to accept criticism. I bet it would be miserable to work with you in any professional capacity.

The post history shows yourself and Zuranthium trolled and attacked OP. Both of you trolled the wiki. Zuranthium even made an unhinged fan fic about violently torturing OP, as my quoted post shows.

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After Samoht and Zuranthium edited the wiki and changed the ranks and rules just to criticize and lower my kill

Oh, wow. This is some victim complex. We did it just to harm you. Right.

We did it because it was outdated and needed fixing. You are completely unrelated to the changes except you brought them up as needing changes. So thank you for that.

The rest of this is just you being a cry baby lashing out because you're unable to accept criticism. I bet it would be miserable to work with you in any professional capacity.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

conveniently just happened to place a "buff limit" of TWO whole buffs to be eligible for his "buffed" rank, knowing that I had 3 buffs for the kill.

The rule is no more than 2 significant outside buffs. Your kill is still marked as S rank because you only needed 2 buffs. The 3rd one didn't change the end result.

Originally Posted by Stryker85 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How Zuranthium can claim that it deserves a lower rank (not just slightly lower, he gave it the LOWEST rank possible) than the 5 different chanters that have done with it relative ease is beyond me, and makes absolutely zero sense.

This isn't true whatsoever. The lowest rank possible would be S* with pull help. You kill is at a normal S, only below S+, and has never been marked below S.

It's already been proven melee can do some S+ God tier kills. But that's completely irrelevant anyway. The tier system has nothing to do with a per-class basis. It's simply a description of the factual way that a solo encounter was achieved, and provides useful information to allow people to search for videos and find things that align with the way they'd like to try the encounter.

And again, the tiers are not trying to compare skill between different classes, and challenges aren't meant to be possible at S+ for every class. It's simply not possible. The fact is that the highest raw power of soloing capability in the game is generally Enchanters. Solo challenges are a question of what can possibly be done solo in the game, regardless of what class is used.

You have the highest rated Monk kill on spore king, dunno why you're not happy with that. And it's very annoying that you keep trying to say I posted your video for some nefarious purpose. I posted it so people could see, because it is indeed an accomplishment that has never been publicly uploaded before.

It's also really annoying that you refuse to do actual math and look at the absolute top potential a class has. Probably because you're upset that your character will never have Shroud of Longevity, and thus never will be completely BIS. But that's why intelligent people don't equate gear with skill.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Community-wise more people disagree with Zuranthium and Samoht anyway

Absolutely wrong, but of course you'll keep trying to strawman and ignore facts as always. And importantly, thoughts about tier system is separate from individual opinions about the strict definition of the word "solo". Don't confuse the two. It's something that's happened too much in this thread.

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zuranthium has taken it upon himself to write a Star Trek/Everquest/Game of Thrones fan fic

Someone hasn't watched Solo Leveling yet! You should go do that, so then you can understand all 4 of the references.

You're welcome for the free content, please pre-order my novel when it goes on sale.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone hasn't watched Solo Leveling yet! You should go do that, so then you can understand all 4 of the references.

You're welcome for the free content, please pre-order my novel when it goes on sale.

Creating a fan fic where you violently torture the OP of this thread due to a disagreement about a 20 year old elf-sim MMO is unhinged. There is no defending it, regardless of how much you enjoy the various source materials that inspired it.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=442054

Back on topic:

Reposting OP's epic video where he kills Fungi King solo with his monk, no consumables:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wONdIYAofyQ

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't even respond to the current community count where more people disagree with Zuranthium and Samoht anyway. Yet another contradiction to add to the pile. You say this is community consensus driven, while ignoring the community and unilaterally editing the page yourself.

I know the concept of "consensus" is a difficult one for you to grasp, but I don't care: it's the standard for anything that isn't clearly "enyclopedia-like" that anyone wants to add to the wiki.

Consensus doesn't mean "five people voted for and two voted against": that's democracy. The wiki is not a democracy.

If anyone wants to add something to the encyclopedia-like wiki, and it's not clearly neutral, they need to cite consensus.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know the concept of "consensus" is a difficult one for you to grasp, but I don't care: it's the standard for anything that isn't clearly "enyclopedia-like" that anyone wants to add to the wiki.

Consensus doesn't mean "five people voted for and two voted against": that's democracy. The wiki is not a democracy.

You unilaterally edited the wiki page without consensus to remove rankings entirely, instead of simply reverting the wiki back to it's original state. You allowed Zuranthium and Samoht to unilaterally troll the wiki without consensus, and did not allow myself or Sscalez to fix it.

This isn't a democracy indeed. There is no consensus either. It is a tyranny run by yourself right now.

[loramin]

You're absolutely right: I am a (wiki) tyrant. Again, not everything in life is a democracy, and doing thankless tasks like managing a bunch of man-babies so normal people can enjoy the wiki is not a task best handled by constant communal votes.

The wiki management structure has served it well for over a decade. If you actually have an issue (and we both know you don't; you're just trolling), I strongly encourage you to take it up with another wiki admin (I'm far from the only one, and I just created the wiki "Administrators" page to make finding them even easier), or with Rogean.