Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Troxx]

Ah so we are back to posting the same copy pastes ad infinitum.

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I’m done posting now until or unless DSM decides to nut up (he won’t)

Latros amigos

[Ripqozko]

We've made it to the point his own guildies are telling him to stfu, Congrats fellas. What a VQ recruitment thread this is.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Congrats to all the trolls who have yet to provide evidence for their claims, and are the real reason this thread has 100 pages.

These trolls are Troxx, PlsNoBan, Karanis, Toxigen, Cyxthryth, Gloomlord, Chortles Snortles, and Ripqozko. Their post histories are pretty sad right now.

PlsNoBan alone is using the word "autism" or "autistic" in 1 of every 3 posts from his last 100 as a derogatory remark.

Big yikes. But when they can't win with evidence or logic, they just turn any forum into RnF. It's much easier to try and silence people than actually have a civil conversation.

This is the current state of the discussion, which has yet to be continued due to trolling and lack of evidence or pursuasive arugment:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Here is Troxx's data for reference. It is using his own standards of being in a group for an extended period of time. He is doing... 79 DPS (without damage shield). It is the precise number I calculated. His DPS is 40 simply because he is nuking more per encounter, but math-wise this also means they aren't pulling mobs that fast. His previous encounter data shows an average kill speed of 36 seconds, and he has yet to provide average kill speed for this data set.

There are two ways you can interpret this data:

1. You can believe Troxx, who is claiming his DPS parser is undervaluing the data by 30%. If that is true, then honestly all of the data he has posted so far is meaningless because his parser is wrong, and he needs to get a better parser.

2. GamParse did it's job and parsed Troxx's DPS correctly. The reason why he thinks the data is undervalued by 30% is because his similarly equipped Monk can do 70 DPS when he isn't pulling. That is where he is getting the 30% number, 70 x 0.7 = 49. The flaw in Troxx's logic is the Monk is only losing 30% DPS because he is pulling, NOT because the parser is wrong. Troxx isn't pulling, he is just sitting in camp DPSing and parsing. He is not losing any DPS, so there is no 30% loss for him. He is basically falsely assuming that if the Monk loses 30% DPS, everybody else is losing 30% DPS too. The parser is correct, and Troxx is wrong.

Either way, he basically has nothing to back up his silly points. The burden of proof now lies on him to either provide better data, or prove his parser is undervaluing all DPS by 30%, and not just the Monk who is pulling lol.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=638 - Here is real objective data for DPS comparisons between a Mage and a Shaman, using a level 49 Sebilis Mob. A Shaman can do 55.2 DPS, a Mage can do 82.7 with damage shield. The difference is only 27.5 DPS. This is a level 60 Mage vs. a level 60 Shaman, no clickies or mana buffs, and assuming the group is killing a mob every 36 seconds.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

\What a VQ recruitment thread this is.

DSM posts alone if I knew NOTHING else about VQ would be enough to make me steer clear. It's 100% doing damage to their rep for anyone that doesn't really know much about them as a casual forum reader. This is the exact reason guilds in the past have had RNF bans and rules about members posting certain things. What kind of guild would allow this guy to represent them?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DSM posts alone if I knew NOTHING else about VQ to make me steer clear. It's 100% doing damage to their rep for anyone that doesn't really know much about them as a casual forum reader. This is the exact reason guilds in the past have had RNF bans and rules about members posting certain things. What kind of guild would allow this guy to represent them?

We will let the readers decide.

Who was it again who is using the word "autism" or "autistic" in 1 of every 3 posts out of his last 100 as a derogatory remark? Oh yeah, that's you.

I certainly wouldn't want to be in a group with a person who starts yelling that you are autistic whenever they disagree with you, think you did something wrong, etc. There is at least a 30% chance of that coming from you with anything you type lol.

[PlsNoBan]

Just callin em like I see em. The reader can decide if it's warranted or not. This whole thread is a bad look on your guild. I've lead moderately successful guilds in the past. I would've put this shit on lockdown like 70 pages ago or you'd no longer have a tag.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just callin em like I see em. The reader can decide if it's warranted or not. This whole thread is a bad look on your guild. I've lead moderately successful guilds in the past. I would've put this shit on lockdown like 70 pages ago or you'd no longer have a tag.

I feel bad for all the people you yelled at in those guilds. Clearly you have issues with maintaining civility when having a discussion.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel bad for all the people you yelled at in those guilds. Clearly you have issues with maintaining civility when having a discussion.

Almost never had to. I didn't have any members behave like this.

[Toxigen]

lol dont let woke wulf see this hes got the kick button on a hair trigger

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol dont let woke wulf see this hes got the kick button on a hair trigger

Kind of insane he hasn't already pushed it tbh