My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[sidgb]

Even if you don't buy PuGs as viable don't forget the possibility of alliance raids between one or more guilds. I would say they have a legitimate claim to a random if that becomes the deciding factor.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Rotation is completely unnecessary. What we need is for everyone to agree that camping is bullshit (which it appears everyone has) and go back to racing or make some new setup that is pseudo first to engage/ffa that is agreed upon by the guilds who are raiding.

This is what I tried to come up with doing my Suicide Kings rotation.

It's not a pure rotation because if you aren't paying attention to when things spawn you will miss out. Tough nuts.

First and foremost I came up with it to stop the camping game, where you get 3 guilds with who knows how many people just sitting around 'bating, and sooner or later someone is gonna douche it up and interfere.

People say they want racing and mobilization, I feel my SK solution would provide a degree of it since FFA looks less and less likely.

[G13]

Another thread where IB comes in with their egos and destroys it with shit talking, flaming, and an elitist attitude. Obviously you guys are still trying to play the propaganda board warrior game with a bunch of lies.

So now the crutch they seem to be leaning on is "They are better at mobilization and organization" than anyone else, and proceed to call everyone n00bs. Let's get to the truth of the matter then. In the past they "camped" mobs as well. They just used a druid to do it instead of having 15 in zone do it. WOW, what a difference. So they camped at a druid/wiz ring and/or used shady methods to get somewhere in 5 minutes after a batphone instead of just being there ready. Much respect brews.

The fact of the matter is last week you were handed Innoruuk after you whined, cried, and lied to a GM. Vittra n00bed up a pull and trainwrecked your AFK posse at the hate entrance. Gwence you should know since you were there with song running and attempting to fight mobs but got feared by a ghast. The chain aggro from your song bringing in even more mobs. GG.

DA ported up and beat you by numbers in 5 minutes. If that isn't organization, then I don't know what is. You hadn't even started resing yet when DA had 15+ in zone ready. IB then petitioned and lied to a GM, claiming a monk "planted" mobs on the East wall to trick Vittra (a MONK BTW) into training IB. Yes, there are screenshots that confirm this idiocy and I'll be happy to post them here. DA was ported out by the GM, even though Hate is a 2 raid mob boss zone and meastro was up, and IB was given carte blanche, Inny on a platter. GG. Much respect to your l33t skills brews. We're not talking about buggy king room pathing in perma, where IB was given first shot at VOX because of it and failed miserably bind rushing Vox, but I digress. Your monk wiped you in Hate. You knew this to be true, and you lied to a GM anyways to get your way. Everyone get that? Good

The GMs dont want FFA. It was tried and guess who screwed it up with their greed? IB. Not DA. Not Trans. Not Divinity. Not Remedy. Not Salty.

So either you people need to create a system with a majority vote that brings the server back to Planet Earth, or have this server be at the mercy of IB's greed. Your choice. There is a real life out there living beyond these fucking pixels ya know. If IB wants to claim victory and being the best fine, let them. Put in the rotation and congratulate them on having no lives and being the "best" at classic Everquest. It really is sad that what could have been a constructive thread for the health of the server overall was turned into a flamefest because of the fragile ego of people in IB. Congratulations guys. Well done.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Hey look, anonymous troll is here to tell everyone the facts! Thanks anonymous troll! No need to post any evidence, your word is good enough for us!

Hey, would you like to come over for dinner? My wife would like to meet you. She thinks your wisdom could be helpful for our marriage.

[azxten]

Here's my proposal.. roll up a fattie and zone out until Kunark comes out because classic always had high end content problems. If you're just trying to get a kill for the sake of reliving it I'm sure that will happen and if you're worried about drops then have fun stressing.

[G13]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's my proposal.. roll up a fattie and zone out until Kunark comes out because classic always had high end content problems. If you're just trying to get a kill for the sake of reliving it I'm sure that will happen and if you're worried about drops then have fun stressing.

It stopped being about drops a long time ago brew

[Nizzarr]

Please refer to the first post in this thread for a solution to this problem.

Look -- theres not a million way to go about it. You either have a scrub rotation(24 hour to engage mobs and we're all in happy happy land) or theres the rotation I proposed which still have some kind of competition in it.

Or you keep having this campfest. Cuz let me tell you guys -- its not going away.

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please refer to the first post in this thread for a solution to this problem.

Look -- theres not a million way to go about it. You either have a scrub rotation(24 hour to engage mobs and we're all in happy happy land) or theres the rotation I proposed which still have some kind of competition in it.

Or you keep having this campfest. Cuz let me tell you guys -- its not going away.

You really think your members are that bad that you couldn't practice mobilizing for a couple of days and compete? That's a shame. Why would you want to be in a guild that you think so poorly of?

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So now the crutch they seem to be leaning on is "They are better at mobilization and organization" than anyone else, and proceed to call everyone n00bs. Let's get to the truth of the matter then. In the past they "camped" mobs as well. They just used a druid to do it instead of having 15 in zone do it. WOW, what a difference. So they camped at a druid/wiz ring and/or used shady methods to get somewhere in 5 minutes after a batphone instead of just being there ready.

You just gave an example of mobilization, not camping. Good job.

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So either you people need to create a system with a majority vote that brings the server back to Planet Earth, or have this server be at the mercy of IB's greed. Your choice.

Good job at arguing the logical fallacy of "All or nothing".

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It really is sad that what could have been a constructive thread for the health of the server overall was turned into a flamefest

By replies like yours too! Surprise!

[Icecometus]

Camping the Bosses leads to a kind of rotation. Why not just formalize it?