no global ooc in offpeak killed the game

[JayDee]

I must say, I was for the removal of global ooc/auction at first.

But now, it just seems more of a ghost town and it's more difficult to find ports and to trade.

Finding myself less interested to log in on my free time in general and I know a few people who feel the same way.

[nosto]

Since the modification from global to localized chat has been implemented what kind of peak player loss has occurred? Are we really seeing some doomsday prophecy /ragequit that was forcasted or was there little impact. Since I started two weeks ago I've seen nothing but higher numbers when I log in so I personally feel the vision the developers had was what players wanted.

I also think that a lot of us old school eq players have really forgot a lot of the patience factors that existed in classic everquest.

I appreciate the fact that chat is no longer global and that the EC tunnels thrive with life. But I think if some form of metrics showing that the population didn't take a nose dive might also hush some of the people so concerned.

Maybe as a part of the guide starting up, some helpful hints for those who are not used to having to play eq classic style should be provided. Such as /who all 10 20 lfg, /who all zonename, /who all dru/wiz. Commands that can be used in aiding with certain situations. If you have a question about a quest, that is what the internet is for if you can't find the answer in your local ooc. When I played in 2000 if I didn't know what to do I just checked out zam or some other site that provided the information. That is what made eq different was that things weren't handed to you, and in the long run it builds a more competent player base that KNOWS its stuff as opposed to the game carrying them.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by nosto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I think if some form of metrics showing that the population didn't take a nose dive might also hush some of the people so concerned.

Sure.

Global ooc/auction was turned off 5/23/10.

Max players went up to 741 on 5/25/10.

Max players went up to 776 this week.

http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?...fo&worldid=787

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure.

Global ooc/auction was turned off 5/23/10.

Max players went up to 741 on 5/25/10.

Max players went up to 776 this week.

Lol nice.

[Hiragawa]

Originally Posted by nosto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also think that a lot of us old school eq players have really forgot a lot of the patience factors that existed in classic everquest.

This, this is a big thing. I think my biggest aversion to the global chat channels on a classic server, is what live has become today. Every zone is a ghost town. People just sit in the Guild Lobby and use the channels to find a group, then use one of the many automated porting services to get where the group is going. The only time you see people shouting for a group in a zonewide channel, is when one of the Hotzones is really good, such as Plane of Fire.

And if you do go out and about in the zones on your own, the people you run across are either already grouped because they shouted a bunch in the global chat to find their group and took over the camp etc, or they're boxing/soloing and don't want to be bothered.

There's no patience, there's no social aspect, and if you don't use the global chat to find a group, you'll be damned if you'll get one by going zone to zone.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

youre just flat out wrong, i know its meant to be hard blah blah blah. and it is hard to find solid groups even during peak times.

we are talking about offpeak times when groups are virtually non-existent.. currently at this very moment i think there are around 150 logged in.. of that 150 there are currently 45 in perma camping vox, so there is only 105 players with a level range of 50 for people to group with. and i bet a lot of them would be afk sleepers too.

there is absolutely nothing i have done wrong, its just theres no one around.

i myself dont have an issue. i solo'd my last lvls from 40 to 50, as i did with most my levels prior to that. gg charm. but i can understand what it is like for the other players who cant solo.

i played 9 straight years on live, no need to go back, im here for the classic raid content, not the current on live.

SO let me get this straight. You're not even LOOKING for groups, and you're on here complaining about how hard it is to find a group?

Wow. Just.....wow.........

[Vonblund]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SO let me get this straight. You're not even LOOKING for groups, and you're on here complaining about how hard it is to find a group?

Wow. Just.....wow.........

It's more likely.. he's tried to group, and when he found out it was not working he found some other way to progress, which is fine when you play a soloable class.

But of course you interpret whichever way suits you... selective reading.

[jilena]

The population has continued to increase since the loss of global OOC. I don't think that is going to change. As more and more people are made aware of this server it's population growth will continue as this growth is somewhat exponential. I.e. someone tells 5 of their friends they each tell 2 of their friends who tell two of their friends who tell two of their friends etc. Even if 5 out of the first batch of 6 quit here you are still left with 31 players instead of 6...

The real question of the effect would be how many established players are now playing significantly less? How many no longer log on? Of the new people who play, how many make it over level 30? Has the growth expanded into the off peak hours? Is the population large enough at these times to sustain a reasonable classic experience from level 1 to 50?

The areas I see hit the hardest by this are the folks who are brand new and the people who have well established characters. Some areas of this server are flat out dead. People know where the good areas are and those who know their shit GTFO out of places like everfrost, qeynos hills, west karana, etc as quickly as possible. New people will be stuck soloing and not get the community feel they might have otherwise experienced with the bustling global ooc.

For those who have one or more max level characters, or at least have been around long enough to be comfortable with their characters place may find themselves now annoyed with things being more tedious and time consuming at a point where their interest in the game is already waning. *shrug*

[frefaln]

Originally Posted by Akame [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hear what you're saying but putting global chat in the game again will force everyone to use them, because people will stop auctioning and going lfg in the normal routes again. Which means we've got to listen to mandatory douche baggary to get groups.

I completely agree with this. The integrity of the original game is what's at stake here, and you know a world channel is just going down the same path as the latter stages of the original iteration.

Fire up IRC in a separate window if it's that important to have features beyond the scope of classic EQ.

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SO let me get this straight. You're not even LOOKING for groups, and you're on here complaining about how hard it is to find a group?

Wow. Just.....wow.........

you just dont read anything do you.. lol.

in previous posts i said i have done the lfg thing for 10+ hours. sitting in zone spamming blah blah blah

didnt work.

solo'd most of it.

l2read.