Shadowknight, what race is best?

[Swish]

I can only speak for me, but rare is the occasion where I need a tank and have the choice between 2 different races at once...and above that, I'd pick you based on previous experiences of keeping aggro, FD pulling, etc etc.

Your reputation for many people comes way above "oh, not that iksar...they're less tanky". From a cleric's point of view a CH is a CH, if I've got clarity it's not going to make a blind bit of difference :P
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[Tecmos Deception]

I understand that some people pick race based purely on aesthetics, and that's fine. But I really wonder how many of the people who think that stun immunity isn't that big of a deal have ever tried playing an ogre SK/sham for 20+ levels.

You may think "oh hey, it wasn't too hard to get spells off with my DE SK, so the ogre racial must not be that great." But I guarantee if you spend a bit of time with the stun immunity, you'll start to regret ever spending time on a SK/sham that didn't have it.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You may think "oh hey, it wasn't too hard to get spells off with my DE SK, so the ogre racial must not be that great." But I guarantee if you spend a bit of time with the stun immunity, you'll start to regret ever spending time on a SK/sham that didn't have it.

Most SK spells are relatively short duration, if you watch for the mob's bash attempt and cast immediately after it there's no issue. If you have 4+ mobs with no CC'er on the other hand, you'll only be reaching for disease cloud anyway to keep them pinned on you and away from the cleric and that's a quick cast.

I think stun immunity is *puts sunglasses on*.... ogre'rated :P

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[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most SK spells are relatively short duration, if you watch for the mob's bash attempt and cast immediately after it there's no issue. If you have 4+ mobs with no CC'er on the other hand, you'll only be reaching for disease cloud anyway to keep them pinned on you and away from the cleric and that's a quick cast.

I think stun immunity is *puts sunglasses on*.... ogre'rated :P

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I notice you didn't say anywhere that you've actually played both an ogre sk/sham and a non-ogre sk/sham and that you still think stun immunity isn't all that great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind not thinking you've played a SK at all though. 4+ mobs with no CCer and the SK is only going to be using DC for aggro?

[Splorf22]

I would think ogre would be the clear min/max choice for SK if only to increase the chance of getting FD off with multiple mobs on you.

[Nihilist_santa]

I played a Troll SK on live and Regen is not to be underestimated for a soloing tank class. Just think about all the time you have spent on your back as an SK and you might understand why that regen helps. I would definitely say IKS or TRL if you can stomach the penalty. Many times I had groups wipe while I laid there and regened and got the hell out of dodge or saved the day on the CR. Regen is passive and always working with no thought. Fear kiting allows lower downtime as you are regenerating while fighting. Seems like regen for monks and necros makes them king and I would say the same for SK. Frontal stun immunity was something I never even noticed I was missing as a troll SK splitting camps to be honest as its pretty situational because of positioning.
Once Velious comes out I would say that aside from slam or faction there is no reason not to be an IKS.

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Krissdu64 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious is already so much late, they're not even talking about it. It's not on beta test yet, said to be worked out but we have 0 news about it, nor any release date.

And since Devs seem to be working more on the classic things of the server as it is now, you can probly wonder WHO is actually working on Velious. How much progression it is at atm. We have no clue at all.

Conclusion : Velious will probably never been released.

All of the things you said about Velious could also have been said (and were) about Kunark.

oops

[TxRanjahs]

Ogre best!!

[TxRanjahs]

Troll close 2nd ....and this is on looks alone

[raff01]

So far I played 3 races for SK :

Human
Troll
Iksar

I would say Troll really makes it easier in the early levels for several reasons :
Grobb being right next to guk which gives you a place to xp from lvl 4 to lvl 50 with tons of loot and nice xp bonus + groups, you can come and go sell, get new spells etc in matter of minutes. My troll SK leveled from 1 to 35 really fast and quickly got a lot of plat due to often looting stuff like runed bone fork etc. Stats are nice and the regen bonus is a must.

Iksar SK is a pain in the ass early on. Faction sucks, limited armor to chose from.
However, when you reach the higher levels, and once Velious comes out, you will have a significant AC bonus, a regen and a unique epic which is one of the best 1handers in the game and much easier to get than Innoruk's curse.

Human SK's are cool for roleplay imo and xp faster...

And last but not least : Iksars have a normal size and won't need a guise in order to be confortable in many places. When playing a troll or Ogre If you can get a guise well that's cool but otherwise, you'll always struggle in many dungeons and it sucks.