Staff - Players - TMO, a Treatise on the Future of the Server

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Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What people fail to realize is that the majority of the server just isn't interested in playing how TMO plays.

EQ is a poor game to try be competitive in. It's just not designed for it. The challenge is in downing the mob, anything after that is artificial and generally silly to care about.

Everyone knows there are several guilds that can kill most raid targets, and at least TMO and BDA can handle the top end stuff too (like Gore, Trak, and honestly after VP keys are finished for the teeth we have, VP shouldn't be a problem either). So at that point the game becomes "who can train better in VP" and "who can wake up more raiders to log on at all hours", which is a really stupid game to play.

EQ is a great game for competition. However, most people are carebears and don't learn how to fully utilize their characters. It's not hard to steal a train and derail it, but most people don't want to do it because it involves more than "tank and spank".

It's just sad that p99 has the WoW mentality raiding aspect from players." Let's all do absolutely nothing challenging and all end up in the same pixels and talk in chat rooms." Sounds dumb, is dumb.

[Nirgon]

Here's the thing.

The wrong approach is "we deserve mobs" - that's exactly how the guys on top feel, BUT they are willing to (if they do work) drag in everyday heavy eyed etc, play till it hurts. That's supply and demand. You have a demand but can't seem to supply the effort.

Trust me when I say if you guys wanted to compete for, say, another mob.. there's a good chance you could post a tracker there and have people camped out to kill it.

That said, you don't have to kill Trakanon or VP dragons or Venril to enjoy the game. Those spawns, are in fact, and were in 1999, held down by the top guild.. accept it.

Do your epics and plane of sky and shit. A lot of that shit is best in slot and I don't think is hyper contested.

The good news in Velious is that I think spawns like King Tormaxx and probably Plane of Growth will be all up for grabs until you're ready to put the pedal to the metal and fight for shit like 7th talismans.

Part of the FAIL of this current gaming culture is "well if I don't get to kill the highest end content, I'm not playing". Wtf.

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imo release an optional velious beta so we can go testing

He has a very strong point. Ball is in the staff's court if they REALLY WANT TO corral TMO away from current targets. I'm sure it is being worked on right now and may be absolutely in no shape of ready, but its a beta let them make the laundry lists and do the finer points of testing for you.

[falkun]

Stealin:
I have a blast derailing trains from other people to save their group or just show it can be done, the challenge of dealing with the extra mobs and all.

I don't enjoy derailing trains getting dropped on top of me because another entity is trying to ruin my day. If someone is going to ruin my day, I want the ability to ruin theirs right back. That's why game-developers created first person shooters, team-based games, and fight games. DOTA, TF2, WoW battlegrounds, PVP servers, CS:S, MW4, Tekken, all of these games were developed so people could bash their heads against each other and proclaim victory. Dropping a train on someone to intentionally screw with them is like the toddler that comes in and bulldozes the other's sand castle. It's beyond childish and no one does it passed age 4, except with internet anonymity.

Nirgon:
And here is where your argument falls apart:

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and were in 1999

The ball, as Nilbog has pointed out, is in *our* court as players. Fighting over 13 year old content is something the top minority has inflicted upon this server and the only reason it is that way is because those toddlers get jollies knocking over our 13 year old sand castle.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's supply and demand.

Velious increases the Supply.

@falkun I wonder where you get your statistics from. Based on average server population TMO is roughly 20-25% of the active server population. Alot of guilds out there aren't actively trying to raid. Where do you get this majority from?

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the thing.







He has a very strong point. Ball is in the staff's court if they REALLY WANT TO corral TMO away from current targets. I'm sure it is being worked on right now and may be absolutely in no shape of ready, but its a beta let them make the laundry lists and do the finer points of testing for you.

Actualy would be a great deal , let people test velious with the promise they will do it full time and will not raid on p99.

sideffects: u know people would have a brutal edge when velious release happen . but world isnt perfect

[Lagaidh]

I've been out in the real world doing things for the past couple of weeks. Bored at work on a Monday during lunch so I pop over to p99.

Finally get the skinny on the raid bans I'd heard about...

I see the new GM rule about training and agro...

I see players posting.

There are some serious adult brats on this server. That's all there is to it. Either side can argue their points until blue in the face and all I keep thinking is: geez... what a brat.

/shrug

I'll bet for a commoner like me, it's still great to just log in and goof off =) I'd hoped to raid on this server, but if I take what I read at face value, it just doesn't look like it's going to be worth the time. As an old electrician told me one summer: you'd get more out of poundin' yer pud.

Am I way off base on this? Seems like the raiding scene drama's been nearly non-stop for two years here. Shame really- it's such a small community to begin with. There's literally a population low enough that everybody on this server could get to enjoy all of the content in an orderly fashion, but for some reason, conflict is created...

Meh. Bored work musings.

[deneauth]

I would love to start testing beta for velious, but patience is key for everything at this point. I have done all the content so far accept VP and I am not going in there. That whole training for hours on end thing really sets my hair on end.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Based on average server population TMO is roughly 20-25% of the active server population.

/who "the mystical order" all
There are 12 players in EverQuest

/who all count
There are 236 players in EverQuest

Unless there are a LOT of ashamed TMO out there /anon, which is a decent possibility considering your recent fall(s) from grace, we are wondering where YOU come up with these numbers.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious increases the Supply.

@falkun I wonder where you get your statistics from. Based on average server population TMO is roughly 20-25% of the active server population. Alot of guilds out there aren't actively trying to raid. Where do you get this majority from?

I think the current state of BDA has significantly more active members than you guys think. At any point in the day i can /who all guild and get too many to list. At this moment I am only seeing 10 of you guys. Granted, very unscientific, but still its some evidence of your active server population may be a tad skewed. Combined with the other guild who actively want to raid but have no mobs to raid due to the current state of affairs of the server. I think the "majority" swings in our favor. I am sure you guys can login at a moments notice alt tabbing from D3 or whatever. Like i said, non scientific.

Honestly i would consider anything with above 20% of a server population a zerg. Both BDA and TMO included. The server "rules" with outrageous amount of off hours pops force us to. We have to be on european time / american time. Usually on live there was a euro guild getting all those mobs hitting in the middle of the night.

Just sayin.

[Greeedy]

Cant RMT the test server things to yourself - wont happen.