TMO adds Gorenaire to the endangered dragon list - Page 10

Lazortag · #91 04-23-2012, 12:12 PM

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I don't get why people feel they need to diminish how much TMO is dominating the server by claiming it is only because they care the most. That is how EQ has always worked. That is actually how most things work. People who care about things are generally good at those things. You guys should honestly be grateful they're being mildly cool about it with the whole opening up mobs and not being too big of cocks on the forums. IB weren't dicks on the forums, but I can't think of more than one or two times we actually gave someone else a mob. Sure, 90% of the gear those mobs drop is probably worthless to TMO, but just about everything drops something worth looting, so it is cool of them regardless.

I'm not one to lessen TMO's accomplishments, they've come a long way as a guild and I congratulate them for an almost-clean sweep yesterday (they didn't get Master Yael or Noble Dojorn if anyone was wondering). I'm also very grateful that they're offering a raid mob every week and I think it is very generous of them to do this. But if I say something like, "the casual guilds would have done better if the repops didn't happen at 10 in the morning", that's not to attack TMO, that's just pre-empting the tired old argument that casual guilds don't do well because they just somehow aren't good at the game. I know not everyone from TMO thinks that, but surely a lot of people do. And it's funny how you say that the raid scene is fair because the people who care the most will get better returns. No one is saying that you should be able to not care at all and get free loot. I don't speak for all casual players but I think what we don't like is anti-competitive behaviour (like poopsocking, which doesn't seem to be the norm anymore, but it was when there was actual competition). I think we also don't like having to invest insane amount of time for uncertain gains. I tracked Talendor, Gore, and Sev for a combined total of around 4 days (this is only counting time that I was awake; the mobs' windows were much longer than 1.333.. days each); my guild only got one of those mobs. One of them was a total waste of time tracking (Gore) because of the server repop (not that I'm against server repops!). If you think it's at all reasonable for a person to devote that much time for so little gain you are crazy. And that's probably why classic was never like this, because any sensible person would have said that 96 hour windows on raid mobs are stupid.

quido · #92 04-23-2012, 12:14 PM

I tracked raid mobs for weeks and weeks before we ever killed one of the mobs for which I was tracking.

Lazortag · #93 04-23-2012, 12:16 PM

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I tracked raid mobs for weeks and weeks before we ever killed one of the mobs for which I was tracking.

Right, and it's completely unreasonable to have to waste that much time. I mean surely you earned the position you're in now, but you can't tell me that wasting weeks of your life is a reasonable entry cost to competing for raid mobs on this server.

Kevlar · #94 04-23-2012, 12:22 PM

How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

Extunarian · #95 04-23-2012, 12:23 PM

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How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

I'm sure Jeremy's signature includes every acct that he has access to. You definitely got him.

quido · #96 04-23-2012, 12:28 PM

Lol yeah.

It's not like when you play Everquest it's the only thing you can do. Grouping as a shaman takes way more work than tracking, especially if you're doing a visual track. I'll track when I'm tired of cannibalizing and feel like getting some coding/guitar/TV time in.

Alarti0001 · #97 04-23-2012, 12:32 PM

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Right, and it's completely unreasonable to have to waste that much time. I mean surely you earned the position you're in now, but you can't tell me that wasting weeks of your life is a reasonable entry cost to competing for raid mobs on this server.

Have more than one tracker !

Autotune · #98 04-23-2012, 12:32 PM

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i always assumed you had hair Stealin =/

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Ele · #99 04-23-2012, 12:35 PM

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How did you track with a shaman and a monk? Were you one of the forgiven showeq cheaters?

"Tracking" a raid mob doesn't actually require a "track" button or skill.

The server has been out long enough, and there was enough time between classic and Kunark and now after Kunark, that lots of people have throw away druid/ranger accounts used for tracking.

You can also track several bosses pretty safely by just watching the spawn point.

tekniq · #**100** 04-23-2012, 12:42 PM

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Everyone knows that this is just a game. Everyone knows that games are for fun.

What not everyone seems to know is that different people have fun in different ways. Just because you or someone else wouldn't have fun obliterating every raid mob on the server over a 6-7 hour span yesterday doesn't mean I didn't have a hell of a good time doing it.

Very, very, very few people call altoholics who are excited about their first PGT and set of banded pathetic underachievers, but all too many people are quick to jump on the nolifer bandwagon because TMO has fun by taking things more seriously.

Why are you sweating my technique?

lol, no one is sweating you, at least on this side of the table. That statement I mad earlier was not directed towards you or your guild, but rather everyone seeming to bitch and defend themselves, creating drama over nothing...To be frank, TMO deserves to get all the mobs as you guys are the only guild willing to put in the work. The only thing I don't understand is why you guys feel the need to give the same explanation over and over again to those QQing. Feels like it's the same discussion every week, just in a different sentence. I also don't get why others are seriously bitching over free raid mobs. You guys are angry TMO isn't giving you Inny/Trak/etc, but honestly you shouldn't be getting Talendor/Gore either. Beggers can't be choosers, nahmsayin?