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03-19-2012, 05:10 PM
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03-19-2012, 03:10 PM
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Me and a few of my buddies were hoping to get an IP Exception to set up a lan for a weekend or two. You guys all know the deal -- mountain dew, beer, pizza, fulfilling stereotypes, marathon gaming etc. etc.
For my friends and I, Lanning is one of the funnest things about gaming. In a marathon gaming session - I'm sure some of us wouldn't be at our computer 24/7 - with movies or sporting events on in the background, playing drinking games, going to the bathroom etc. However, NONE of US would 'two-box'. One may port, one may unenthusiastically hold down a spawn, one may help PL but none of us would be 'two-boxing'. I'm afraid the mere fact we shared an IP combined with the, sit around, play style of EQ would immediately predispose us towards an appearance of impropriety. We're afraid to apply for an IP exception to lan now, we fear we might all get banned because we're not all sitting attentively at our comps moving our characters in different directions. We will be fine, doing without a lan, but I do feel for people who want to play with their roommates. I'm glad two boxers are heavily regulated -- but if IP exceptions are allowed those individuals who are lawfully using them should not have to fear for their account everytime they go AFK for 5 minutes while medding to full. | ||
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03-19-2012, 06:59 PM
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this thread is a pretty fun read: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...brother+banned Also..... when you apply for an ip exemption we comment on your thread the following: Quote:
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03-19-2012, 04:04 PM
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I wonder how many people caught 2 boxing were running both accounts on the same PC and still trying to say it was a wife or roommate playing.
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03-19-2012, 05:42 PM
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Again, proxy or no proxy... if you're duoing in a popular zone like Mistmoore - if something doesn't seem "right" about the way the duo is playing, or strange that their cleric/warrior combo really doesn't want a rogue/monk to join them... then proxy or no proxy you're still raising suspicion among others in the zone.
At that point, and assuming a few different people have reported the 2 characters for allegedly boxing over the course of a week or two - its then down to Amelinda or whoever else to have a look if time allows. Your proxy isn't a total failsafe, it just shows you're not playing from the same IP. I'm 100% certain I've reported a duo working in Unrest (shaman/necro) for boxing and haven't seen them since. Maybe they had a proxy and tried to work the system. I still think Amelinda has a few techie tricks up her sleeve, I don't see why people risk their accounts over trying. If you want to box, try another EQemu server that allows it. I thought EQ was all about meeting new people and enjoying content with them along the way...the health of the server is in a lot better state without boxers in every zone. I'd rather the rules were too harsh than too slack.
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03-19-2012, 08:50 PM
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Whenever I've two boxed (not in P1999) I found the following usually applies:
1. No communicaton between me and boxed character and no communication between boxed character and others 2. No movement other then standing / casting heals or buffs (maybe a nuke) 3. My gear is usually much better then the boxed characters 4. Boxed character mules and all gold / plat goes to me at the end When I used to play WoW with my girlfriend we never communicated through text because we were next to each other in the same room however she talked to friends and guild. She didn't just buff and heal me, she would get up, move around, melee a bit on my mobs, dance, spot adds etc. I had to share gold with her, she had decent gear equal to mine, we both looted stuff. In short, a boxed character is a dead character, I imagine it would be pretty easy to spot. | ||
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03-19-2012, 09:17 PM
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I wouldn't say a boxed character is necessarily a dead character..
some people are quite skilled at boxing characters.. making third party utilities to control multiple boxes at once from a single screen.. I haven't searched for everquest but I imagine there is something like that already out there. Probably what some of the ads on the site are in reference to in fact. | ||
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03-19-2012, 09:39 PM
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Its not that hard to 2box eq, on live I had guildies who'd play 3-4 toons at once while farming and you dont need any 3rd party software either, alt-tab and someone with quick fingers/hands can do it easily.
The dead giveaway to me is what ikonoclastia said, the boxxed character will almost always not speak. I've also noticed 2boxers using autofollow alot, which is another dead give away to me..anytime someone uses autofollow normally they will let the person know beforehand. In my experience on p99, I've learned to not even wasting time reporting 2boxers. The last time I did I was suspended for 3 days for "wasting time and interfering in a GM investigation." Since then I've been accused of 2boxing for powerleveling a few of my brother's toons (when we werent even playing from the same IP let alone household, lol) as well as just hanging around buffing/assisting RL friends who were in lowbie groups at the time. I've also witnessed the same people 2boxing while farming/exping/powerleveling their alts blatantly, and continue to do so. This is a free to play server, you can't expect the GM's to waste their time hunting down all of the morons 2boxing. Especially when folks who petition them are shunned/punished for doing so. | ||
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